Mystery-Woman Miers (Has Supported ICC, Gay Adoptions, Tax Hikes; Some "Conservative," Huh...?)

World Net Daily ^ | 10/03/2005 | Joseph Farrah

[upcountryhorseman]

She should withdraw and allow Pres. Bush to put forward
a qualified conservative: such as Ms. Brown or Mr. Olsen.

[ez]

Bush is such an effective leader that he lets moderates in his own party walk all over him. Great, I guess Bush likes bending over a lot.

What part of "We don't have the votes." don't you understand?

[Republican Wildcat]

The content of the article is false - we have been through this already - I don't know how many times. Again, parroting the same nonsense over and over again does not make it anymore true than the first time it was posted.

[rollo tomasi]

"Demanding prefect adherence to the agenda in the face of staunch political opposition is the stuff of fools or rabid partisans."

No, it is the stuff of defeatism and appeasement. Both of which you think is noble at all times. I guess the Founders should never tried to break away, in your eyes they were "the stuff of fools or rabid partisans".

[ez]

You're certainly welcome to take a forlorn stab at "debunking" the meat of the accusations, if you like. (Certainly, none of those preceding you on this thread have been terribly successful at it, to date.) :)

To allow you to become the adjudicator of our efforts would be tantamount to smashing one's head into a brick wall.

No thanks.

[dfrussell]

Already posted and farah has been debunked.

Um, debunked where?

Asserting that someone is a paranoid liar doesn't really qualify as having "debunked" them.

[ez]

She should withdraw and allow Pres. Bush to put forward a qualified conservative: such as Ms. Brown or Mr. Olsen.

You should withdraw and allow Pres. Bush to have his pick.

See, I have as much power to edit your decisions as you have to edit Bush's.

[dfrussell]

Do you think if Harriet Miers was for the ICC that she would work for an administration that gutted it and gave the UN the finger over it.

Sure.

Next question.

[Dane]

Keep on reading, it is thouroghly debunked.

[rollo tomasi]

What part of political hardball and payback don't you understand. You don't have the votes with a majority in your hands you pound the freakin hammer and squeeze the Senators in your own party.

[ez]

No, it is the stuff of defeatism and appeasement. Both of which you think is noble at all times.

To every thing turn, turn, turn,

there is a season, turn, turn, turn,

and a time to every purpose under Heaven.

Read my tag...there's a time to be extreme and a time to moderate. When you don't have the votes, you compromise.

We thought 55 R votes in the Senate gave us a conservative majority. We thought wrong.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Again, parroting the same nonsense over and over again does not make it anymore true

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

EXAMPLE: stammering, desperately -- as some on this thread have done, in the doomed attempt to score however slight a point as they felt capable of achieving -- that Miers' advocacy for "civil rights" for gays and lesbians could be plausibly spun (somehow) as meaning something other than marriage and/or adoption rights for same, no matter HOW often repeated, or with what robotic persistence, cannot -- does not -- render it one jot or whit less nonsensical, or more "true."

It'd be nice, really, if everyone were willing to agree that rote repetition of apologist b.s. didn't do anything to make it more "true."

Ah, well. It's an imperfect world, isn't it...?

[dfrussell]

but you already knew that.

On the odd chance that it needs to be said, you're becoming increasingly shrill and paranoid.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Asserting that someone is a paranoid liar doesn't really qualify as having "debunked" them.

LThat's only because you aren't using the Kidz 4 Saint Harriet Lucky Magic Decoder Ring -- ! :)

[rwfromkansas]

I find it rather interesting you are posting an article from 10/3.

All this stuff has been refuted before.

[Republican Wildcat]

This should be such a ridiculously easy task, really.

Especially given that the document proving that there was no such endorsement of the positions Farah claims is linked in this very article. It's nothing more than an itinerary for topics to discuss at the conference. How embarrassing for you.

She also told the gay group she didn't want their endorsement in the race for city council. Farah claims that she courted their support. That's called lying.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

All this stuff has been refuted before.

So everyone keeps saying; much like the similarly overheated "sworn testimony" of toothless drifters regarding their quasi-sexual encounters with Bigfoot, or Elvis.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

"EXAMPLE: stammering, desperately -- as some on this thread have done, in the doomed attempt to score however slight a point as they felt capable of achieving -- that Miers' advocacy for 'civil rights' for gays and lesbians could be plausibly spun (somehow) as meaning something other than marriage and/or adoption rights for same, no matter HOW often repeated, or with what robotic persistence, cannot -- does not -- render it one jot or whit less nonsensical, or more 'true.'"

If you're just going to ignore it, I'm just going to repeat it.

[Republican Wildcat]

Miers' advocacy for "civil rights" for gays and lesbians could be plausibly spun (somehow) as meaning something other than marriage and/or adoption rights for same, no matter HOW often repeated, or with what robotic persistence, cannot -- does not -- render it one jot or whit less nonsensical, or more "true."

Overwhelmingly stupid. She didn't even support repealing the sodomy laws.

[rwfromkansas]

Why don't you support Miers, who submitted a srong conservative statement to the judiciary committee on the role of the courts?