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Mystery-Woman Miers (Has Supported ICC, Gay Adoptions, Tax Hikes; Some "Conservative," Huh...?)
World Net Daily ^ | 10/03/2005 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 10/23/2005 5:34:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: bluefish; dfrussell; skr
Ok, your post 294 supposedly answers my question. However, the follow-up post 299 from skr is certain in order.

I didn't find the web site (the committee actually) to be Conservative in philosophy by any stretch. It seemed more policy-wonkish with respect to the judicial appointment process. Lately, it's main goal seems to be doing battle with the Dem's attempts to shut down the nomination process. The principle seems to go at it with the People for the American Way.

I'd like to second skr's question though.

301 posted on 10/23/2005 7:35:23 PM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: skr
How is Donatelli responsible for the CFJ website? I haven't found her name amongst the members yet.

It's not: she's the person who paid for the domain name and the contact for it.

If you don't believe me, you can do the following from a computer with the applicable software:

"whois -h whois.networksolutions.com COMMITTEEFORJUSTICE.ORG"

Domain Name: COMMITTEEFORJUSTICE.ORG

Administrative Contact: Donatelli, Becki information@campaignsolutions.com 118 North Saint Asaph Street Alexandria, VA 22314 US 703-684-3435 fax: 123 123 1234

Clear enough now?

So, do you pro-life Miers supporters who trust that brick-wall President Bush to stack the court with someone who'll overturn Roe v. Wade see any disconnect with an individual who is obviously pro-abortion working to get Miers nominated?

Do you think that just maybe you should be a bit more skeptical?

Are you starting to get queasy feeling that you've been sold down the river?

Nawh, you're right... you should trust Bush. I'm sure he'll do the right thing (pun intended).

302 posted on 10/23/2005 8:05:32 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: bluefish
Look at the money trail for the person who registered the domain to which you're being directed and which claims to refute issues with Miers.

Post #294 for details.

You'll note that that individual is giving money to 527's which are in turn exculsively supporting "pro-choice republicans" etc.

303 posted on 10/23/2005 8:13:40 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: Theodore R.
"Social" issues also have inherent costs in addition to the expenditure of overt government funds. Really, one is either conservative or not: how can he split the difference.

Tell that to the religious right. If the Dems didnt offend them on social issues and national defense, many of them would vote Democrat to get their free health care and social welfare net.

304 posted on 10/23/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: dfrussell

It would appear that she was hired for her campaign / fundraising skills. I would spend more time investigating the priciples of the group in question and a little less time investigating their WebMaster LOL.


305 posted on 10/23/2005 8:36:25 PM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: Itzlzha
"Far Right," eh? Clinton-style triangulation. Letting the whole world know that conservatives don't have a home in the GOP any more.

Fine. The GOP doesn't have a "lock" on conservatives' votes any more. As they're going to find out in about a year's time.

306 posted on 10/23/2005 8:40:46 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bluefish
It would appear that she was hired for her campaign / fundraising skills. I would spend more time investigating the priciples of the group in question and a little less time investigating their WebMaster LOL.

You missed the point, and she's not the webmaster.

Ah, well, I guess it doesn't matter :-)

Trust Bush. I'm sure it will work out just fine for you :-)

307 posted on 10/23/2005 8:43:18 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: Theodore R.
And, yes, Olympia Dukakis is a very talented actress.

is this an opinion you share with people when the name "Mike Dukakis" comes up?

btw--i didn't actually give money to the DNC nor to the Dukakis campaign... i was a starving student back then... i did give my time and energy, however...

308 posted on 10/23/2005 9:14:58 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: dfrussell
Trust Bush. I'm sure it will work out just fine for you :-)

If you read any of my posts prior to our discussion, you will find that I am NOT one to to simply trust and that I actively encourage debate. I'm not participating in the Miers debate myself, but have inserted myself where I see dishonesty.

I couldn't tell if your selective analysis of Campaign Solutions / Donatelli was intentional obfuscation or not, which is why I asked the original questions.

Anybody can look up whois or political contribution databases. However, I think you have really taken some huge leaps to arrive at your conclusions.

I haven't looked closely at Donatelli, but I did see that a SVP worked on JC Watt's campaign. That was enough for me to conclude that you have engaged in excessive hyperbole.

And yes, I realize that whats-her-name is not the webmaster. Turn up your humor radar a notch. She is the Administrative Contact. That does not mean she "paid for" the domain as you stated. One of her underlings likely registered the domain when they were hired by the Committee for Justice. I'm sure the CFJ will be billed for it, but recognizing this and presenting it in this more fair fashion doesn't suit your scare campaign, does it?

You need to look at the CMJ, not a single priciple at Campaign Solutions.

I'm now questioning whether you are foolishly reading too much into your armchair detective work, or if you are merely employing dishonest tactics to further your own agenda.

Having said all that, rest assured that I am not overly pleased with the nomination. I think Bush could have done much better. I'm still asking myself "what was he thinking?" This is why I'm reading, but not presuming to know enough to opine on then nomination itself.

309 posted on 10/23/2005 9:51:53 PM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: dfrussell

It looks as though Donatelli's organization bought the domain name committeeforjustice.net, .com and .org. Only .org is being used. The .net and .com domain's are not set up to direct one to the .org domain, which is not an efficient use of buying similar names if one is trying to direct people to a site. Looks more like a financial buy than a political one. The Committee for Justice certainly doesn't promote abortion, particularly since they have fought for conservative nominees to go through the process without filibusters. It's not clear to me how a pro-abortion person would be happy with CFJ's work.


310 posted on 10/23/2005 10:34:06 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: dfrussell

Your link to the money trail indicates that the Hockaday-Donatelli Group, a campaign business that works for both pro-life and pro-abortion Republicans, is the recipient of, not the donor to the Wish List and Emily's List.

Aside from whom owns the domain name and it's .com and .net versions, what do you have to refute the actual article? The founder of CFJ is C. Borden Gray, a member of the Federalist Society. The People for the American Way certainly don't like him.

From http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=11467 :

This time, rather than working on behalf of President Bush’s anti-government tax cuts and privatization schemes, Mr. Gray is helping President Bush pack the federal judiciary with extreme right-wing judges who will be expected to, among other things, consistently decide cases on behalf of corporate interests and against the interests of ordinary Americans. Mr. Gray embodies both prongs of the grand right-wing strategy for drastically reducing the role of the federal government in protecting Americans’ liberties and acting on behalf of the common good – take away the legal authority by packing the courts with states’ rights extremists and take away the financial foundation of the social safety net with massive deficit-inducing tax cuts.




How is Mr. Gray's conservative approach subordinate to the owner of the domain his site is on? I have some skepticism, but Pres. Bush's track record in judicial nominations is consistent, so I'm willing to hear Ms. Miers out. The Senate needs to do its job. Name-calling and misrepresentations are neither acceptable nor useful. It's time to get realistic. We haven't got a justice on the Court now whom hasn't made a bad decision, and we're not going to get one that never will, no matter whom is nominated.


311 posted on 10/23/2005 11:37:19 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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