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To: churchillbuff
Wrtiing fiction about the life of Christ is not IMO writing for Christ.

Especially if she is saying He killed people then brought them back to life, or made clay pigeons come to life etc.

8 posted on 10/23/2005 2:13:12 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

I always interpreted (and accepted) the tale of Christ with father Joseph making pigeons as a symbolic one. But, it also seems entirely possible for a child Christ (or adult Christ for that matter) to have done, if you believe He is God. I know --I-- can't make pigeons, nor a herring, nor any of God's creation.

I realize it's in the Apocrypha, these tales, but they are believable within the presence of Jesus Christ as God made man.

I agree that the "killing men and bringing them back to life" part of the tales involved there suggests wrongly a randomly harmful, wreckless image of God in His son, Christ as a Man child, but it might just be as Christ similarly is known to have cursed a fig tree, or complained hearily to the Apostles for not remaining awake with Him in the Garden as He prayed. Christ understood (understands) and shared (shares) our humanity, as the Son of God.

As to Ann Rice, I pray for her salvation and rejoice in it.


33 posted on 10/23/2005 2:48:08 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: DainBramage

I agree with you. From what little I have read of her book, she indulges in fantasy, not facts.


94 posted on 10/23/2005 4:25:00 PM PDT by AReaganGirl (Jesus came to take away our self righteousness and give us His righteousness!)
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To: DainBramage

>> Wrtiing fiction about the life of Christ is not IMO writing for Christ. <<

First, Dain Bramage, as someone with Brain Damage, ADD AND dyslexia, I resemble that. :^D

Second, the article doesn't simply say she is writing ABOUT Christ... It says she claims to have had a (n apparently gradually unfolding) rebirth of her faith.

Don't expand on what was written. The article says he killed one person, you repeat it as if he killed more than one person. The difference is significant: one person could indicate an extraordinary circumstance. Do you reject it because it seems un-Christ-like? Recall that Peter slayed people in the Acts of the Apostles. Why can't Jesus slay someone and then give them life anew? Can you infer a lesson that an ancient writer may have been trying to illustrate?

If she has taken liberties with the gospel stories, demonstrate that she has taken bad liberties, for of all of the movies referenced, they all take liberties: The Robe, The 10 Commandments, Ben Hur, and the Passion of the Christ, which also does use apocryphal gospels (Jesus stumbling as a child, Veronica, the names of the thieves, the spear of destiny), and questionnable sources.

There are many infancy narratives of Jesus, most attributed to one "Thomas the Israelite." Some are quite questionnable, others fairly pious. All those attributed to Thomas have one story in common: that of the pigeons made from clay. I believe the purpose is to establish that Christ is creator, not created.


181 posted on 10/24/2005 11:35:09 PM PDT by dangus
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