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Chuck Hagel says: "Give Illegals a Chance"
Omaha World Herald ^ | Oct. 23, 2005 | Henry Cordes

Posted on 10/23/2005 3:17:13 PM PDT by jebanks

Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska once again will wade into the political minefield of immigration reform, planning to introduce legislation that would allow immigrants here illegally to work their way to legal status.

The plan Hagel is expected to introduce Tuesday also will include stronger controls at the border to stem the flow of undocumented workers into the United States.

Sen. Chuck Hagel

The Republican said Saturday there are about 10 million illegal immigrants here now who are an integral part of the nation's economy. Any immigration proposal must recognize and provide a way for them to earn legal status.

"Most illegal immigrants are here for the same reasons our grandparents came to this country, to improve their families' future," he said. "Most of them are good people, but the fact is they are here illegally. We have to deal with that."

Hagel held meetings in Omaha to discuss immigration in advance of unveiling his proposal.

On Friday he met with federal, state and local law enforcement officials. On Saturday he met with immigrant advocates in south Omaha, a traditional landing place for undocumented workers.

Hagel said the outline of his plan was well-received in both meetings.

Overall, Hagel said, the plan will be similar to the bill he introduced with then-U.S. Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., in the last Congress.

But it will include some new details, including additional resources for border security.

He said he also will introduce the plan in three different bills. He said his previous experience in taking on controversial and complex issues, including climate change, has shown that breaking the plan into pieces would make it easier to pass.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; chuckhagel; earnedcitizenship; hagel; illegal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationreform; senate
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1 posted on 10/23/2005 3:17:14 PM PDT by jebanks
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To: jebanks

Another sellout.


2 posted on 10/23/2005 3:18:37 PM PDT by SC33
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To: jebanks

A chance at what, to run their numbers to 50% of the U.S. population?


3 posted on 10/23/2005 3:19:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: jebanks
Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska once again will wade into the political minefield of immigration reform, planning to introduce legislation that would allow immigrants here illegally to work their way to legal status.

So remember, folks! The next time Hagel or the RNC hits y'all up for donations, be sure to make a donation that they can understand...loud and clear!


4 posted on 10/23/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: jebanks

Any plan that was well received by immigrant advocates has to be stopped.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: jebanks

Are these politicians that idiotic? There have been ways to become a legal resident of the U.S. We have to many idiots who do not want to lose citizen in their home country. Do they know what dual citizenship means? I am sick and tired of this nonsense. We need to vote these idiots out of office and elect someone who will enforce the laws already on the books.


6 posted on 10/23/2005 3:24:20 PM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside (The stink you smell are the liberals fuming after Ann speaks!!!)
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To: SC33
I'm for giving them another chance and amnesty. It would work like this: Go back to your home countries and apply to come here legally like thousands of others have done. If you do it by such-and-such a date, your illegal entry will not be held against you.

If you've used your time here illegally to learn our language, respect our culture and support our country, that will be taken into consideration when legal entry visas are handed out.

Starting such and such a date, we will start handing out one legal entry visas for every confirmed deportation. If you want a chance at one, better hurry!

7 posted on 10/23/2005 3:24:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: jebanks; Stellar Dendrite
The Republican said Saturday there are about 10 million illegal immigrants here now who are an integral part of the nation's economy.

Police, judges, and the penal system are also an "integral part of the nation's economy." So should we encourage more crime, Chuck??

8 posted on 10/23/2005 3:25:21 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: jebanks

All we are saying,
Is give crime a chance.


9 posted on 10/23/2005 3:25:35 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: jebanks
Chuck Hagel says: "Give Illegals a Chance"

We have. And here's what we got: 30% of our prison population, drug smugglers, welfare fraud, forgery, identity theft, communicable diseases, rape, murder, gangs like MS-13...

Hey republicans: want to get voted out of office? Support amnesty for illegal aliens.

10 posted on 10/23/2005 3:25:47 PM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: jebanks
Psst, Mr. and Mrs. Illegal, what Sen. Hagel is trying to say is "Y'all come to Nebraska. I'll take care of you."

North of Kansas, east of Wyoming, south of South Dakota, west of Iowa. Last one there is a rotten huevo.

11 posted on 10/23/2005 3:27:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (The seasons come the seasons go we get a little sunshine rain and snow ...)
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To: jebanks

US Sen "Chucky Boy" Hagel is a First Class Anal Oriface!


12 posted on 10/23/2005 3:27:51 PM PDT by zzen01
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To: glockmeister40

"Hey republicans: want to get voted out of office? Support amnesty for illegal aliens"

I wish- who are we supposed to vote for- Democrats? Like they are going to do anything about the problem. Conservatives have nowhere else to go, the Republican elites know that, and that is why they will do nothing about this problem and the US will be sold out to Mexico and gradually become a third world nation.


13 posted on 10/23/2005 3:28:36 PM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: jebanks

Hey chuck, do you boys in Nebraska like speaking spanish?
You farm boys in Nebraska like this B.S.?
Well tell me how do you like your representative now?

Next time vote for anyone but Chuck Hagel, maybe some one who isn't for illegal immigration.


14 posted on 10/23/2005 3:30:26 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: jebanks
Fishing for future voters.

This is the ONLY reason why Schröder and Fischer have done everything in their power to get Turkey in the EU. These are their future voters.
15 posted on 10/23/2005 3:30:41 PM PDT by seppel
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To: glockmeister40
This type of pol annoys me more than the rest of them.
"There is no problems on the border there is no problem
there is no problem oops well we have ten million in the
US now, we had better make them legal now"

Hagel needs to learn the meaning of the word "Payback" if he
does not learn it, he should be shown what it means at the
ballot box.
16 posted on 10/23/2005 3:30:59 PM PDT by p[adre29 (Arma in armatos)
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To: glockmeister40

The repubs are committing suicide with this kind of crap. Why support this? I'm no fortune-teller, but I've got a feeling donations and votes will be running a little lower in 2006-08.


17 posted on 10/23/2005 3:32:49 PM PDT by eddiemunster
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To: Altair333

Then stay home, once enough of these sell outs get fired by
the people (or maybe they were outsourced.....) they will
get the message.

"Yo Estados Unis por Americanos, no Rino's"


18 posted on 10/23/2005 3:33:12 PM PDT by p[adre29 (Arma in armatos)
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To: Altair333
I wish- who are we supposed to vote for- Democrats?

There are other options, such as the Constitution Party. Yes, I'm aware of the usual objections to voting third-party, but I can tell you one thing - nothing's better at grabbing the GOP's attention.

19 posted on 10/23/2005 3:34:36 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: All
"Most illegal immigrants are here for the same reasons our grandparents came to this country, to improve their families' future," he said. "Most of them are good people, but the fact is they are here illegally. We have to deal with that."

Well since they are such good people, I am sure they won't mind going back and coming back in legally now will they Chuck?

20 posted on 10/23/2005 3:35:28 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: TigersEye

>>>North of Kansas, east of Wyoming, south of South Dakota, west of Iowa. Last one there is a rotten huevo.

You forgot Colorado in there...


21 posted on 10/23/2005 3:35:43 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals - Stuck on Stupid.)
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To: varmintxer

Time to drag out my Hagel vodoo doll. Emails don't mean anything to this RINO.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 3:36:39 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (If you pay property taxes you don't OWN that land, you are just a RENTER.)
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To: jebanks

Exactly how is this any different from amnesty? One has to be profoundly stupid not to have learned anything from the last amnesty. We are clearly not a nation of laws, we are a nation of expediency.
susie


23 posted on 10/23/2005 3:39:26 PM PDT by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: jebanks
"Most illegal immigrants are here for the same reasons our grandparents came to this country..."

What I can't understand is... why are YOU here, Chuck?

24 posted on 10/23/2005 3:40:21 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Prime Choice

I love that idea. LOL


25 posted on 10/23/2005 3:41:22 PM PDT by Tammy8 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON)
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To: jebanks
Hagel = "Bloomin' Idiot" = "Pandering Jackass"

It's about time to start looking for some rope...

26 posted on 10/23/2005 3:42:34 PM PDT by Gritty ("In politics, stupidity is not a handicap" - Napoleon)
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To: jebanks

There are huge meatpacking plants in Nebraska that employ thousands of illegal aliens. Guess where Chuck gets his "contributions".


27 posted on 10/23/2005 3:43:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: jebanks

F Chuck


28 posted on 10/23/2005 3:45:26 PM PDT by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa !)
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To: jebanks
Overall, Hagel said, the plan will be similar to the bill he introduced with then-U.S. Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., in the last Congress.

Oh, with Tommy boy, eh!

He said he also will introduce the plan in three different bills. He said his previous experience in taking on controversial and complex issues, including climate change, has shown that breaking the plan into pieces would make it easier to pass sneak into some piece of legislation

29 posted on 10/23/2005 3:45:38 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster

ping


30 posted on 10/23/2005 3:46:49 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: jebanks

If they want these people to become legal, I suggest a fine/fee of $500,000.00 per family, $250,00.00 per individual. Most of their young children will probably be legal citizens, if born here, so the 500K should serve well. I'd be willing to consider a much lower fee/fine for those brought here as children by their parents, maybe $20k to $100k, the younger you were when brought here, the more you pay. I'd agree to letting them pay in-state tuition rates for college as part of this plan.

The figures I've heard have been ridiculously low.


31 posted on 10/23/2005 3:47:20 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Prime Choice

Great graphic! Presidente Bush looks muy guapo! Very 19th Century!

I will be sending them some of these, for sure!


32 posted on 10/23/2005 3:48:54 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jebanks
On illegal immigration, Republicans are the broken sieve. The Dems are the fire hose.
33 posted on 10/23/2005 3:49:23 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: varmintxer

He accepts your e-mails?? Mine have been rejected for several months now.


34 posted on 10/23/2005 3:49:57 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: jebanks
Chuck Hagel says: "Give Illegals a Chance"

Inquest says: "Give Border Security a Chance"

35 posted on 10/23/2005 3:51:00 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Vigilanteman

"Starting such and such a date, we will start handing out one legal entry visas for every confirmed deportation..."

That's a good plan too!


36 posted on 10/23/2005 3:51:21 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jebanks

Yes we have millions of illegals that perform millions of low tech jobs that the business roundtable GOPers would scoff at if they were performed by Americans demanding a raise, but what the hell we really need politicians to screw us over so Hagel might as well join the mob.


37 posted on 10/23/2005 3:52:04 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yep...they want them legal so they can vote...
they want them here so their buddies can benefit from
virtual slave labor..

They do not care what happens to the rest of America

imo


38 posted on 10/23/2005 3:53:41 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Joe Boucher

Go ahead and slam Hagel if you wish, he deserves it, but don't slam the state. Nebraska is a great state, and we are just as unhappy with Hagel as anybody else is. Tell me, Mr. Condescending Joeboy, who is YOUR senator, and what have they done this week to secure the border?


39 posted on 10/23/2005 3:54:05 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: ozzymandus

You are absolutely correct and deserving of salutations, but in our era of the big business and the multicultural left axis of evil we condemn you.


40 posted on 10/23/2005 3:54:58 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid!)
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To: jebanks

I really don't think America needs 10 million more DemocRATS. Especially if they are illegal.


41 posted on 10/23/2005 3:58:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
You forgot Colorado in there...

And to think, I'm in CO. 8^O

If they can't find NE with the directions I gave then they probably never found their way across the border.

42 posted on 10/23/2005 4:01:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (The seasons come the seasons go we get a little sunshine rain and snow ...)
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To: jebanks

"Give illegals a chance?"
They've already been given a chance. Many chances. They each cost American society $40,000 a year. They run up our health costs. They bring crime. They cause cultural pollution. Maybe the good senator would like to pay for them out of his own pocket.


43 posted on 10/23/2005 4:01:58 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Annie5622

He takes about 5 weeks to reply but I've always gotten a reply. Last one was about the war and he just sent a couple of reprints from newspapers. I had asked he answer some specific points but they were just ignored.


44 posted on 10/23/2005 4:05:11 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (If you pay property taxes you don't OWN that land, you are just a RENTER.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Really, we're past the point of legal immigration, too. The Immigration Era was the late 1800s, not now. Now we are nearing 300 million population. There is congestion everywhere. Immigration is driving house prices out of reach for most Americans. It's diminishing the middle class and reducing our standard of living. Let's put a stop to it.


45 posted on 10/23/2005 4:05:58 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: jebanks

Why, so our government and politicians such as yourself can continue to force us to pay for them? I don't think so.


46 posted on 10/23/2005 4:09:36 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: henderson field

"Immigration is driving house prices out of reach for most Americans."

But but... do you want to pay more for your asparagus?


47 posted on 10/23/2005 4:09:52 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (If you pay property taxes you don't OWN that land, you are just a RENTER.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If you or I commit a crime, what are the odds we get rewarded for our efforts??


48 posted on 10/23/2005 4:12:08 PM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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To: varmintxer

Good poiny. By the way, the increase in asperagus would be 10-15 cents a pound.


49 posted on 10/23/2005 4:15:22 PM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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To: ozzymandus

Bingo


50 posted on 10/23/2005 4:15:49 PM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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