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Time for 'Scooter' to Scoot (An oldie - on Libby's Marc Rich connection)
Newsmax ^ | March, 2001 | John L. Perry

Posted on 10/25/2005 9:51:05 AM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff; smoothsailing; adamsjas; LibertarianInExile; okie01; Andy from Beaverton; ...

Everybody has a right to a lawyer, but I have a right to make a judgment of a lawyer by the kinds of clients he chooses to become entangled with, especially in long-term relationships.


21 posted on 10/25/2005 10:20:58 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Yikes. I had NO idea about this connection.


22 posted on 10/25/2005 10:21:10 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: aft_lizard

Everybody has a right to a lawyer, but I have a right to make a judgment of a lawyer by the kinds of clients he chooses to become entangled with, especially in long-term relationships.


23 posted on 10/25/2005 10:21:58 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Damning evidence that VP Cheney needs to fire Scooter BUMP!


24 posted on 10/25/2005 10:23:01 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: churchillbuff

Lemme get this straight:
Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, and Congress is investigating LIBBEY for makiing a phone call to Rich?

Does that about sum it up? Libbey had NO hand in the pardon, but he's the one being investigated?


25 posted on 10/25/2005 10:25:40 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: aft_lizard

"""Painful as it is to have to say, Waxman got that right. No chief of staff to any vice president has good cause to be phoning congratulations to traitors, pardoned or not. """"


26 posted on 10/25/2005 10:26:39 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Redbob

Would you want Johnnie Cochran as the VP's chief of staff? Or a mob lawyer? I prefer having people at high levels of government who don't do business with, and keep secrets of, sleazeballs.


27 posted on 10/25/2005 10:28:28 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: SittinYonder

Libby-Mark Rich link


28 posted on 10/25/2005 10:29:27 AM PDT by eyespysomething (I broke the dam.)
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To: TommyDale
This is the first time I have read of a Marc Rich / Lewis Libby connection. If this is true, I have no sympathy. Throw him under the bus for all I care.

If Libby did in fact do this, and he testified that he did, throw him under the buss and then back it over him again.

Republican or Democrat, Scum is Scum.

So9

29 posted on 10/25/2005 10:36:13 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: churchillbuff

Your post didn't sound at all like trolling. But I am curious to find out the year that Libby started representing Rich - was it before or after he was charged with trading with the enemy?


30 posted on 10/25/2005 10:39:17 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: eyespysomething; Perdogg; TommyDale; gondramB; tom paine 2; sgtbono2002; aft_lizard; ...
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york030201.shtml

Bad Night for the GOP Lewis Libby comes to Marc Rich’s defense. by Byron York

March 2, 2001 8:55 a.m. Lewis Libby, a top Republican lawyer who is now vice president Dick Cheney's chief of staff, told the House Government Reform Committee last night that he agreed with much of Bill Clinton's widely discredited op-ed article outlining the former president's reasons for pardoning fugitive tax evader Marc Rich.

In a session that stretched late into the evening, Libby, who represented Rich for several years ending in the spring of 2000, told the committee he believes Rich is not guilty of the tax and racketeering charges filed by federal prosecutors in 1983. Libby also said he "quite possibly" would have considered applying for a pardon for Rich had Rich asked him to do so.

Libby, who said his law firms collected as much as $2 million for representing Rich, testified he had nothing to do with the application that led to clemency for Rich. He declined to say whether he approved of the decision to pardon Rich, but he conceded that he called Rich on January 22, two days after the pardon, to "congratulate him on having reached a result that he had sought for a long time." Libby testified he made the call from his home to make clear that he was calling in a personal capacity, and not as a representative of the Bush administration.

In a particularly damaging exchange with Pennsylvania Democrat Paul Kanjorski , Libby agreed that Rich might be characterized as a traitor for fleeing the country and renouncing his American citizenship. Kanjorski asked Libby why he would call a traitor to congratulate him on his good fortune in winning a pardon. Visibly uncomfortable, Libby had no answer.

For Republicans, Libby's testimony was a sour endnote to what had been a long day of revelations that made President Clinton's decision to pardon Rich seem even more inexplicable than previously thought.

Early in the day, Republicans revealed that former deputy White House counsel Cheryl Mills, who played a prominent role in Clinton's impeachment defense and now serves as a trustee for the Clinton-library foundation, took part in a discussion with the president about the Rich pardon the night Clinton made his last-minute decision. Mills left White House employment in the fall of 1999. Several witnesses at the hearing — former White House chief of staff John Podesta, former White House counsel Beth Nolan, and former top Clinton adviser Bruce Lindsey — testified that Mills was often at the White House in the year and a half after she left to become a senior vice president at Oxygen Media, a television and internet firm devoted to women's programming.

"She continued to be a trusted adviser to the president," Nolan told the committee. Nolan said that in the last weeks of the administration, Mills was at the White House frequently for end-of-term parties and other events. On the chaotic evening of January 19, Clinton called several advisers to the Oval Office to discuss his plans to pardon a number of people who had been convicted or pled guilty in the Whitewater, Mike Espy, and Henry Cisneros independent-counsel investigations.

"I invited Ms. Mills to join that conversation," said Bruce Lindsey, former close adviser to the president, citing Mills's expertise on independent-counsel issues. Lindsey testified that at the meeting, Clinton raised the Rich pardon issue and that Mills took part in that discussion, too. "I do not believe she took a position on it," Lindsey said, referring to the Rich case.

But it appears that Mills's involvement was greater than simply participating in one meeting. Republicans on the committee also revealed that Roger Adams, the pardons attorney in the Justice Department, has told the committee he called the White House to discuss the Rich matter and ended up discussing it with Mills, who spoke authoritatively on the matter. Adams was apparently somewhat bewildered that a former White House employee would be involved in pardon discussions.

In addition, the committee released a January 5, 2001 e-mail from Robert Fink, a lawyer for Marc Rich in New York, to two other members of the Rich team. "Here is the letter Jack [former White House counsel Jack Quinn] just sent to the White House," Fink wrote. "As you may notice his secretary said that Jack sent copies to Beth Nolan, Bruce Lindsey and Cheryl Mills. April said they have clearance to deliver it to the WH [White House], so it will get there this evening, presumably before POTUS leaves for Camp David." Quinn told the committee that he brought Mills into the case in an effort to help convince Clinton to pardon Rich.

Earlier in the hearing, former Democratic National Committee finance chair Beth Dozoretz appeared briefly before the committee. Connecticut Republican Christopher Shays read to her from a January 10, 2001 e-mail from an associate of Rich's to Quinn. "DR [Rich's former wife Denise] called from Aspen," the e-mail began. "Her friend B [Dozoretz] — who is with her — got a call today from potus — who said he was impressed by JQ's [Quinn's] last letter and that he wants to do it and is doing all possible to turn around the WH counsels."

Shays asked Dozoretz why she discussed the Rich case with the president. "Upon the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to answer that question," Dozoretz said, citing her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Shays asked whether she would refuse to answer all questions on those grounds. She said yes.

Georgia Republican Bob Barr asked Dozoretz whether she would at least tell the committee whether she intends to cooperate with the criminal investigation being conducted by federal prosecutors in New York. She declined to answer that, too.

On another topic, the committee released information casting doubt on one of Quinn's main arguments in favor of the Rich pardon. On February 8, Quinn testified that he was frustrated at the "intransigence" of federal prosecutors in New York who, Quinn said, were unwilling to discuss the case with Rich. Quinn also testified that the prosecutors' use of RICO, the racketeering statute, was the "sledgehammer" that resulted in Rich's decision not to return to the United States to face charges.

Now it appears that prosecutors were not as inflexible as Quinn contended. In his opening statement, committee chairman Dan Burton announced that in 1999 the government offered to drop the RICO charges against Rich if he would return to the U.S. to face trial. E-mails between members of the Rich team indicate that prosecutors also agreed to set a bail for Rich in advance so he would not have to worry about being incarcerated before trial. Rich refused the government's offer.

The committee also released information suggesting that the campaign to win a pardon for Rich began significantly earlier than was previously known. The idea was referred to in a February 10, 2000 e-mail from Avner Azulay, one of Rich's top advisers to Robert Fink, the New York lawyer. The e-mail discussed strategies to follow in the case and concluded, "The present impasse leaves us with only one other option: the unconventional approach which has not yet been tried and which I have been proposing all along." That "unconventional approach" was apparently the pardon initiative.

The next month, on March 18, 2000, Azulay again e-mailed Fink. "We are reverting to the idea discussed with Abe [Anti-Defamation League head Abraham Foxman]," the e-mail said, "which is to send DR [Denise Rich] on a 'personal' mission to NO1. with a well-prepared script." Congressional investigators believe "NO1." refers to the president.

Quinn testified that he had no recollection of any such discussion, but he did not rule out the idea of early pardon discussions. "It is entirely possible that…everyone of us involved in this thought out loud with each other," Quinn testified. "It is possible that we were involved in a conversation where someone said, 'You know, we're going to have to try a pardon one of these days.'"

Finally, committee lawyers are preparing to examine the donor records of the Clinton library. On Wednesday, Burton's lawyers saw a list of approximately 150 people and companies who have given or pledged at least $5,000 to the library. The next step, which will take place today, will be for them to see the amounts of those donations and the dates they were given.

Because of their long and painstakingly detailed investigation of the campaign finance scandal, experts on Burton's staff are familiar with the names of most people who have given large sums of money to the Democratic party and Clinton-related causes over the years. Congressional sources say there are some unfamiliar names on the library donor list. Investigators will want to find out who those people are and whether they gave their own money to the library — or whether they served as fronts for the donations of others.

31 posted on 10/25/2005 10:39:20 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff; Servant of the 9

ping -- check out post 31


32 posted on 10/25/2005 10:40:20 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Seems like our President lives by the old adage:

"Hold your friends close, but hold your enemies closer."


33 posted on 10/25/2005 10:41:01 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin
"Hold your friends close, but hold your enemies closer." """

There's no percentage in having somebody like Libby in a high position in a GOP administration. It brings the stench of Marc Rich -- and that's Clinton stench.

34 posted on 10/25/2005 10:42:01 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: gondramB
It's not clear from the articles I've read. What is clear is that this is an awkard situation, to put it generously -- and having this guy on the VP's staff was asking for trouble.

from National Review, March 2001. Byron York reported the following: ""Libby, who said his law firms collected as much as $2 million for representing Rich, testified he had nothing to do with the application that led to clemency for Rich. He declined to say whether he approved of the decision to pardon Rich, but he conceded that he called Rich on January 22, two days after the pardon, to "congratulate him on having reached a result that he had sought for a long time." Libby testified he made the call from his home to make clear that he was calling in a personal capacity, and not as a representative of the Bush administration.

""In a particularly damaging exchange with Pennsylvania Democrat Paul Kanjorski , Libby agreed that Rich might be characterized as a traitor for fleeing the country and renouncing his American citizenship. Kanjorski asked Libby why he would call a traitor to congratulate him on his good fortune in winning a pardon. Visibly uncomfortable, Libby had no answer.""

35 posted on 10/25/2005 10:46:11 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: gondramB
From this article, it sounds like Libby started representing Rich AFTER Rich 9treasonously in my personal opinion) traded with Iran during the hostage crisis

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff testified Thursday he believes prosecutors of billionaire financier Marc Rich "misconstrued the facts and the law" when they went after Rich on tax evasion charges.

The testimony from Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who represented Rich dating back to 1985 but stopped working for him in the spring of 2000, came during a contentious, hours-long House committee hearing into former President Bill Clinton's eleventh-hour pardons.

Earlier in the day, three former White House advisers all said they recommended that the Rich pardon be denied, but that they supported Clinton's decision-making process.

Facing intense questioning from Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pennsylvania, Libby hedged on whether he thought Clinton's pardon was justified, infuriating the congressman.

"Did you represent a crook who stole money from the United States government, was a fugitive and should never have been given or granted a pardon by the facts that you know?" snapped Kanjorski.

"No, sir," Libby responded. "There are no facts that I know of that support the criminality of the client based on the tax returns."

Libby then said prosecutors from the Southern District of New York "misconstrued the facts and the law" when they prosecuted Rich.

"(Rich) had not violated the tax laws," said Libby.

At a later point, Libby said he thought Rich was a traitor for his company engaging in trades with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages. "I did not condone it, I didn't advise it, I don't admire it," he said.

36 posted on 10/25/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Perdogg

Maybe Bush and Cheney and the entire administration should resign right now and let Hillary take over. Would that satisfy the left? Of course not. They would still need to take over the House and Senate so they could have their precious chairmanships returned to them that the stupid electorate has given away to their enemies. Maybe some nitwit Republican officeholder will suggest this before long so we can just get it over with and surrender to those who know what is best for all us.


37 posted on 10/25/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by penowa
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Maybe Bush and Cheney and the entire administration should resign right now and let Hillary take over.""""

Probably not. But Libby's resignation would satisfy me. He has the stench of Clintonite scum Marc Rich on him.

Hillary is close to the Riches; it would be more appropriate for March Rich's mouthpiece to work for her.

38 posted on 10/25/2005 10:52:14 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Dec. 1, 2004 — Former American fugitive Marc Rich was a middleman for several of Iraq's suspect oil deals in February 2001, just one month after his pardon from President Clinton, according to oil industry shipping records obtained by ABC News.


Americans' Role Eyed in U.N. Oil Scandal.

Nothing has change with Rich,
once a crook always a crook.



Bio: AKA Marc David Reich

40 posted on 10/25/2005 10:54:25 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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