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Sheehan: Oppose Clinton if She Backs War (Stay Away from Fort Marcy Park!)
Associated Press ^ | 10-25-05 | MARC HUMBERT

Posted on 10/25/2005 12:57:40 PM PDT by GianniV

Cindy Sheehan, who became the face of anti-war sentiment after her son died in Iraq, urged foes of the war to thwart Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's political aspirations unless the New York Democrat opposes the conflict.

"I believe that any candidate who supports the war should not receive our support," Sheehan said Tuesday in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It doesn't matter if they're Senator Clinton or whoever."

Sheehan has become a de facto leader of the anti-war movement since she camped out near President Bush's Texas ranch while he vacationed there in August, requesting a meeting with the president. Her son Casey was killed last year in an ambush in Sadr City, Iraq.

The former first lady, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, voted in 2002 for the congressional resolution authorizing the president to use military force in Iraq. Clinton has supported troop-level expansions even while criticizing Bush's handling of Iraq.

Clinton is up for re-election next year and leads national polls of the party's potential 2008 presidential candidates.

Sheehan met with Clinton in Washington last month to discuss the war.

"After she met with me, she said she has to make sure our sons didn't die in vain," Sheehan said. "That is a totally Republican talking point."

Clinton campaign spokeswoman Ann Lewis declined to comment on Sheehan's criticism.

Sheehan is in Washington this week to continue her protests. Her public criticism of Clinton surfaced earlier this month with a message posted on anti-war filmmaker Michael Moore's Web site in which she wrote: "I would love to support Hillary for president if she would come out against the travesty in Iraq. But I don't think she can speak out against the occupation because she supports it."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: podkane
Sounds like a recipe for civil war... in which case we need to be out of there. Saddam gone, "constitution" exists, it should be the Iraqis problem from here on out...

It could sound like one hand clapping, but it doesn't mean it is.

There isn't going to be a civil war, the insurgency there isn't anywhere near as strong as it was earlier.

And the United States isn't a nation that is going to cut and run from iraq now.

We'll leave when the job is done.

Not "evacuate" or "retreat".

21 posted on 10/25/2005 1:41:47 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: lawdude
Do you think someone in the IRS might just want to look at her filings?

She has already declared she won't be filing taxes anymore.

Which to me hint that something ain't right with the loon.

22 posted on 10/25/2005 1:43:28 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: GianniV

Related thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508977/posts
Cindy Sheehan Speaks Out Against Hillary


23 posted on 10/25/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Brilliant

I think it is a ploy for Hillary to distance herself.


24 posted on 10/25/2005 1:46:38 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GianniV

I am fully aware of the 8,454,763 reasons not to like Cindy Sheehan, but damned if she didn't pull one of my heartstrings with this one.


25 posted on 10/25/2005 1:49:34 PM PDT by murdoog (I leaked that name!)
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To: podkane

"And with approx. 0% of the Sunni vote. Sounds like a recipe for civil war"

Between the Kurds and Shia, thats 80% of the population, name Custer mean anything to you.


26 posted on 10/25/2005 1:53:04 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Prime Choice

Geeeeze, why did you have to post that picture? It's a good thing that M*A*S*H is coming on and it's happy hour in 3 minutes.


27 posted on 10/25/2005 1:54:34 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Sonny M
There isn't going to be a civil war, the insurgency there isn't anywhere near as strong as it was earlier.

Then we don't need to be there. We're losing more people this month than last, which doesn't point to a weakening insurgency. Either way, we need to leave.

And the United States isn't a nation that is going to cut and run from iraq now. We'll leave when the job is done.

We're not a nation that runs on slogans. If we can finally agree on a reason we're there - to establish democracy, then we should declare victory and leave. The biggest threat to a fledgeling democracy is the perception that it's under the boots of an occupying army. The Iraqi forces will never bear the full load of protecting their own nation if we're always there to back them up.

28 posted on 10/25/2005 1:58:49 PM PDT by podkane
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To: GianniV

Who's Cindy Sheehan?


29 posted on 10/25/2005 2:00:46 PM PDT by schaketo (Not all who wander are lost)
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To: GianniV

"Anti-war protesters Cindy Sheehan, right to left, Ann Wright, and Ann Wilcox, stage a protest in front of the White House, Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005, in Washington. With the U.S. military death toll in Iraq poised to surpass 2,000, Sheehan, who camped for 26 days in front of Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, spoke about her planned protest vigils to be held in front of the White House. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)"

"By Robert H. Reid, Associated Press Writer | October 25, 2005 BAGHDAD, Iraq --A U.S. Army sergeant died of wounds suffered in Iraq, the Pentagon announced Tuesday. The death -- along with two others announced Tuesday -- brought to 2,000 the number of U.S. military members who have died since the start of the Iraq conflict in 2003"

30 posted on 10/25/2005 2:01:33 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: podkane

podkane, why don't you just be honest.
You want the USA to lose in Iraq.
You're a fan of Zarqawi.
You're hoping for another terror attack here so you can blame Bush.
You listen to news reports hopeful for more US casualties.
You're disappointed that Iraqis voted at a higher percenatge than people here.
You're disappointed Saddam was not able to continue his acid baths, child prisons, rape rooms and mass murder.


31 posted on 10/25/2005 2:07:37 PM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: lawdude
"I still ask the question - who employs this woman and allows her take all this time off?" Do you think someone in the IRS might just want to look at her filings?

I sure hope so.

It's my understandting that she's never held any kind of job for any length of time. However, this year she's receiving speaking fees for her so-called speeches. She'll owe taxes on that money as of April 15, 2006. It will be interesting next spring to see what the IRS does then.

Another tidbit is that when her husband filed for divorce, the lawsuit requests that she pay him support. She obviously has money coming from somwhere.

32 posted on 10/25/2005 2:09:10 PM PDT by carolinablonde (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: RexBeach
"Hello, I'm Cindy Sheehan and I've got a secret - I've got my head up my a**!"

LOL! That is a secret only cindy does not know. The rest of us caught on awhile back..

33 posted on 10/25/2005 2:13:35 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: threeleftsmakearight
You want the USA to lose in Iraq.

You're a fan of Zarqawi.

You're hoping for another terror attack here so you can blame Bush.

You listen to news reports hopeful for more US casualties.

You're disappointed that Iraqis voted at a higher

percenatge than people here.

You're disappointed Saddam was not able to continue his acid baths, child prisons, rape rooms and mass murder.

That's quite a rant... with "supporters" like this, no wonder our president is having a rough time in the polls.

Let's see:

#1: We can declare victory NOW, when we have a success... and the Iraqis have an official constituion, it's officially their country. There is no reason for us to stay any longer and lose any more soldiers.. it would also remove the only reason that the insurgents have for support..

#2 What?

#3 What?

#4 What???!!!

#5 only in Americans, not Iraqis..

#6 I'm disappointed that this will drag on and drag our president's polling numbers down. We have won. Saddam is on trial, Iraqis have a constitution, but they now have the responsibility to run and protect their country - and deal with THEIR Sunni problem. Time for us to leave.

34 posted on 10/25/2005 2:27:10 PM PDT by podkane
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To: podkane

I have an alternative: We leave lock-stock-and barrel for Syria, Sherman-like, led by the 3rd "Thundering Herd" Armored Division. It shouldn't take 3 weeks.
After we break a lot of things and kill Syrian and foreign terrorists there that would kill us here, we leave for home or back to Iraq. If the Iraqis don't have things under control, well, the Iraqi roaches presumably have come out of the wood-work.
We shoot the bad boys and feed the good ones.

But, paint our asses white and bound away, as you recommend, like, like--Frenchmen? Leave the Iraqis to the tender mercies of the Ba'athists, Syrians, Taliban, al Quaida and Iranians? What are you? Gay?
Ain't gonna happen again, pod.


35 posted on 10/25/2005 2:45:26 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: podkane
We're not a nation that runs on slogans. If we can finally agree on a reason we're there - to establish democracy, then we should declare victory and leave. The biggest threat to a fledgeling democracy is the perception that it's under the boots of an occupying army. The Iraqi forces will never bear the full load of protecting their own nation if we're always there to back them up.

We may not be a nation that runs on slogans, but we also don't run, and hide or surrender.

Establishing a democracy is one step, cementing it is next, or should we wave the white flag, leave and allow the country to turn into another afghanistan where we will have to return and invade again.

Al Quada must be hunted anywhere it is, and they do have operatives in iraq, leaving them there to roam and lead the insurgency is not only foolish, its suicidial.

36 posted on 10/25/2005 3:16:06 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: carolinablonde; Blurblogger; potlatch; writer33; Kenny Bunk

see#32

'when her husband filed for divorce, the lawsuit requests that she (Cindy) pay him support'

wow, that's a new tidbit...where did you find that?


Chris, there's an idea for a satire....


37 posted on 10/25/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: lawdude

''Who employs this woman, and allows her to take all this time off?'' Answer.........Moveon.org., Michael Moore, and George Soros.


38 posted on 10/25/2005 6:00:41 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: bitt

That is new to me too, wonder if her family is wealthy? Naa, plastic surgery would have been an option then!


39 posted on 10/25/2005 8:21:40 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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