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Dangers of paedophile priests were ignored by Irish church
Times Online (UK) ^ | 10/26/05 (UK) | David Sharrock

Posted on 10/25/2005 4:08:14 PM PDT by wideminded

TWENTY-ONE Irish Catholic priests sexually assaulted young boys and girls in parishes across Co Wexford over a period of 40 years, a damning report into clerical abuse revealed yesterday.

The Irish Government said that it would take immediate action to implement the recommendations of the report into the Diocese of Ferns, which is now regarded as the world’s leading centre for clerical sexual abuse.

The 271-page report catalogues 100 complaints of abuse, with one priest responsible for 26 assaults. The Ferns Report, which investigated allegations dating back to 1966, concluded that Church authorities, the medical profession and society in general failed to appreciate the horrendous damage which the sexual abuse of children causes. The report revealed that police investigations were wholly inadequate, while bishops in the Diocese of Ferns failed to take basic precautions to protect children.

Bertie Ahern, the Irish Prime Minister, told TDs (Irish MPs)during Leaders’ Questions in the Dail: “It is a catalogue of serial abuse and gross dereliction of duty in the Diocese of Ferns. Our thoughts go out to the victims and their families. The report brings out the full horror of their situation . . . and catalogues the continuing failure to respond adequately in Ferns until recent years. It’s obviously shocking that it went on for decades.”

Enda Kenny, the Opposition leader, said: “The detail is scandalous and brings shame on a civilised society. It is a shocking wake-up call to the Church and the state.”

Frank Murphy, the retired Supreme Court judge who headed the inquiry, said that steps taken by Bishop Donal Herlihy were inadequate and inappropriate. The deceased bishop did not recognise that child sex abuse was a serious criminal offence.

A second senior clergyman, Bishop Brendan Comiskey, who resigned in 2002, was also heavily criticised.

Judge Murphy found that the bishop failed to recognise the paramount need to protect children from potential abusers as a matter of urgency.

Irish police were criticised for not keeping records of informal complaints of abuse, including one allegation that ten children were molested at the altar in the parish church of Monageer. Before 1990, Judge Murphy said, there appeared to be a reluctance by individual officers to properly investigate abuse allegations. The inquiry detailed how priests were shifted from one parish to another following allegations of abuse. Bishop Comiskey was found to have been unable or unwilling to act on advice from experts regarding the behaviour of priests.

Health authorities were also criticised, with the report finding that counselling and support was only offered to ten children abused by one priest seven years after the incident.

Publication of the report was delayed for several hours yesterday because of legal arguments.

While six priests were named in the report, the other fifteen were referred to by initials only. The Irish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children said: “This cruelty, consisting not just of sexual abuse of children, but of institutionalised silence and inaction, served not only to traumatise and hurt children but also served to make these children feel that they were to blame for the abuse perpetrated on them.

“Many of these children, now adults, still carry the emotional and psychological impact of their experiences.”

Eamonn Walsh, the Bishop of Ferns, has apologised unreservedly for the abuse.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; catholicchurch; europeanchristians; homosexualagenda; ireland; pedophilepriests
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1 posted on 10/25/2005 4:08:15 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Apparently this is not only an American problem. The report issued covers only one county in Ireland.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 4:12:19 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

That's why Ireland now has only one seminary (in Dublin) which - correct me if I'm wrong - had only one ordination this year.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 4:23:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: wideminded

Were these victims "children" in the technical sense? that is were they young children or perhaps teenagers and therefore technically children? The victims seem to be predominantly young males.
I maintain that the church has a homosexual problem more than a "pedophile" problem.


4 posted on 10/25/2005 4:37:08 PM PDT by ocjones
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To: ocjones
Were these victims "children" in the technical sense?

The article says "young boys and girls" (which doesn't mean teenagers to me). The details are in the report. I'll see if I can find a link for it.

5 posted on 10/25/2005 4:42:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

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6 posted on 10/25/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by jla
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To: ocjones
This is such a dark spot on the Catholic Church. It's heart wrenching that this behavior was brushed under the rug all those years ago.. I just, for the life of me, don't understand why they thought this problem would go away if they moved guilty priests from parish to parish. And as far as "pedophile" goes..even if these boys were teenagers, the priests were grown men who were preying (no pun intended) on the innocence of the young. If it's just a "homosexual" problem, then why not just deal with each other and leave the kids alone.
7 posted on 10/25/2005 4:56:45 PM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: wideminded

Considering God considered homosexuality an abomination, it is obvious that the Catholic Church did want dishonest homosexual pedophiles to lie and take vows giving them access to innocent children.

These homosexual pediphiles are as sick in the head as they get, and just like the ones that parade around, they seem to have a sort of pride in their sins.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 4:58:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jla
What a bunch of nonsense: "liberals brought..."

Why haven't they managed to achieve that earlier? Socialism exists for over 200 years, atheism even longer. All these are old enemies. So why haven't they succeeded before? That question is never asked.

The problem is not the attacking party, however abominable it may be: it is the defenses that are weaker. It is not the liberals are getting stronger --- the "traditionalist" are weaker. Liberalism and socialism have never won except by stepping into the vacuum left by retreating traditional values. The enemy is we ourselves.

9 posted on 10/25/2005 5:02:47 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

Once again, in English this time.


10 posted on 10/25/2005 5:04:17 PM PDT by jla
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To: ladiesview61
If it's just a "homosexual" problem, then why not just deal with each other and leave the kids alone.

Excellent point. The apologists always try to reword to minimize the impact of the deeds --- as if it ever helped anybody.

11 posted on 10/25/2005 5:04:34 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: jla
Once again, in English this time.

Ok.

W-h-y h-a-v-e-n't th-e-y ma-na-ged to a-chie-ve that ear-lier? So-ci-a-lism exists for over 200 years, athe-ism even lon-ger. All the-se are old e-ne-mies. So why haven't they suc-ceeded be-fore? That ques-tion is ne-ver asked.

Is this slow enough now?

12 posted on 10/25/2005 5:07:19 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
I said English, not your native language of witless-speak.
13 posted on 10/25/2005 5:16:08 PM PDT by jla
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To: wideminded; Irish_Thatcherite; Colosis
Strange how many of the US predators in priest's garb are of Irish ancestry. Two of Boston's most notorious, Shanley and Geoghan, are/were Micks.

I'd like to believe mixing the Irish with Catholicism has nothing to do with this, but the sheer numbers suggest otherwise.

Perhaps there's a bad gene running through some Irish that makes them like this, just like others (my family included) are cursed with the drinking and fighting gene.

14 posted on 10/25/2005 5:16:40 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

Is it a certain embattled minority, us vs the world, you don't rat out your own, mentality that the Irish have brought to American Catholicism ?


15 posted on 10/25/2005 5:32:04 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness; Happygal; Colosis
Perhaps there's a bad gene running through some Irish that makes them like this, just like others (my family included) are cursed with the drinking and fighting gene.

From meeting ye, I can certainly attest to that Patrick! I think it's just that perverts saw an opportunity to bugger kids if they join the priesthood.How the hierarchy could let this go on, I don't know. Maybe they were hamstrung by the horror of it all. As an earlier post said, pedophilia is the evil that may bring the church down.

As you know Happy, I was in Wexford this weekend where all this happened - great place altogether. Will take me a week to recover!

16 posted on 10/26/2005 2:13:49 AM PDT by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK) IRA = Ragheads)
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To: Colosis

I've been working on the Ferns Inquiry all week. My head is wrecked with it. Was at the Bishops press conference yesterday. Have to say, I have a lot of faith in Bishop Walsh.

BTW, glad you had a good time in Wexford. Raging I missed you. As you know I was in Athlone. If Ireland was a doughnut, Athlone would be the hole!


17 posted on 10/26/2005 5:27:36 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: ocjones
I maintain that the church has a homosexual problem more than a "pedophile" problem.

Exactly right. The Cathoic Church is a magnet for homosexual deviant behavior. The homosexual behavior found within the realm of the Church even makes the San Fransisco non religious gays blush. And you have laity Catholics, also known as "pewbies" defend and defend and defend this sort of ungodly, aborrant behavior until they forgot what is it that they are defending.

Things to keep in mind:

It DOESN'T exist to this degree in all denominations.
It ISN'T mere sinful imperfection.
This immorality IS confined to the Catholic clergy.
It IS still going on.
It IS NOT just a few, but all pervasive.
It HAS been going on unchecked for centuries.
18 posted on 10/26/2005 7:42:28 PM PDT by petconservative (4 more years (ilovemybush))
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness; wideminded; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; ...

Thanks for the ping.


19 posted on 10/27/2005 3:38:09 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite; Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness; wideminded; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; ...

Here's my two cents.

Prior to the Sexual Revolution a fair number of healthy hetero young men accepted the idea of celibacy and of devoting their lives to the priesthood. Once "everyone" started to have a pre-marital sex life the prospect of joining the priesthood became unattractive to most heterosexuals and the pool of prospective hetero priests imploded.

That left a larger percentage of homosexuals among those who would consider such a life. The "birds of a feather" factor did the rest.


20 posted on 10/27/2005 4:14:07 PM PDT by aculeus
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