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To: EveningStar; onyx; cyborg; Petronski

the problems we are having as a national people shall continue to prove intractible so long as:

1. for various reasons, people are not allowed to (carefully, specifically) note that there are indeed empirically verifiable problems, and...

2. the discussion is dominated by racism (old fashioned, plus reverse-racism, plus "the soft bigotry of low expectations"), tired old excuses for extortion, doggerel-spouting mo-tards, race-baiting politics, and PC social theory.

These problems are matters of culture, not genetics.
These problems are matters of culture, not material wealth or poverty.
These problems are a matter of culture, not history.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 9:40:11 AM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout
Yes, the problems are culture. But people also need to be able to talk about the often-rational reasons why whites are wary of blacks and blacks are wary of whites. In many ways, whites and blacks are actually feeding each other's suspicions and racism and that's gotta stop.
58 posted on 10/26/2005 10:07:38 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: King Prout

I agree with you.


116 posted on 10/26/2005 4:08:28 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm on the 24 plan having the best day ever.)
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