Posted on 10/27/2005 1:05:01 PM PDT by emiller
I have also heard that "relenza" is good stuff...
Buy hogs. And hog companies.
Yup.
there is no evidence that Tamiflu would be of any use against a human form of H51.
ahh the glorious central planners, stupid peasants we will tell you what you need!
So, I had a sore throat on Tuesday, the sniffles, and now I have a crappy cough. I suppose it's the Bird Flu, for sure! I'd better run right down to the ER and get my Tamiflu, I suppose.
Oh...wait...it's just a cold. I'll feel better in a day or two. Never mind.
Why have you hoarded it? Unless you plan on sleeping with your chickens and ducks underneath your hut or slaughter birds yourself, there is no real risk from the avian flu. Did you realize there is a fairly short shelf-life for the product? Did you also know that it has not preventative properties? Tamiflu is only of benefit once you have the influenza infection or are exposed while you are on it. It works by halting cell lysis and release of new viral particles long enough for your immune system to work out its response. If you take it too soon, it will not help.
"there is no evidence that Tamiflu would be of any use against a human form of H51."
Yes there is. It has been effective against most (but not all) forms of the bird form of H51. Any human form of H51 will more likely than not come from the majority of strains of H51 that have been effectively treated by Tamiflu. And yes, there's a chance the mutation will cause Tamiflu to lose effectiveness, but there's also a very good chance that it won't.
Do you think all these nations all over the world are frantically stocking up on Tamiflu because they know it won't work?
Relenza is good, but in even shorter supply. About 1/10 the production of Tamiflu.
You are blatantly, conspicuously, totally WRONG.
Most tamiflu capsules being purchased now have expirations dates of 2009-2010.
Prophylactic administration of Tamiflu is an approved use. In practice, few do this.
Sometime consider educating yourself before you post.
Now...don't confuse folks with facts. [grin] You just can't get enough of that Tamiflu. That's why Roche is halting deliveries to the US. We're pretty wierd about hoarding stuff.
I'm sure doctors are getting all sorts of Tamiflu requests from their more hypochondriacal patients. Wierd.
Oh my God, man, how
can you joke?! Remember the
Y2K carnage?!
It does appear that current H5N1 strains might require a higher/longer dose. Worth keeping in mind if anyone is planning a purchase (better be a real quick purchase).
Run that first sentence by me again.
An Article in this months Scientific American backs up Tamiflus effectiveness, but it takes high dosages...still works though.
There is no human form of H5N1. The one out there you have to sleep with a duck to get.
I dunno, there seems to be a possible Tragedy of the Commons angle to all this. On the one hand free markets and self-reliance are usually the best solution, but on the other, were antibiotics not prescription-controlled the overuse of them and rise of resistant mutations would be greatly increased. That example isn't exactly parallel because it involves doctors, not gov't, as the gatekeeper, but is food for thought.
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