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To: TomasUSMC
AND allowing them a constitution that mandates Islam as not only the official religion but the final authority on which laws will be passed is a recipe for continued terrorism against America.

We don't ALLOW them anything. They decide on their own constitution. Have you read their constitution? Note Article (2)(b) and (c)

Article (2):

1st -- Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:

(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.

(b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy.

(c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.

2nd -- This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices.

Article (7):

1st -- Entities or trends that advocate, instigate, justify or propagate racism, terrorism, "takfir" (declaring someone an infidel), sectarian cleansing, are banned, especially the Saddamist Baath Party in Iraq and its symbols, under any name. It will be not be allowed to be part of the multilateral political system in Iraq, which should be defined according to the law.

2nd -- The state will be committing to fighting terrorism in all its forms and will work to prevent its territory from being a base or corridor or an arena for its (terrorism's) activities.

TWO: RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS

PART ONE: RIGHTS

FIRST: Civil and political rights.

Article (14): Iraqis are equal before the law without discrimination because of sex, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.

The recently approved Iraqi constitution is a remarkable document. As someone who has lived 5 years in Saudi Arabia and two in Iran, this constitution stands alone in the region (except for Israel) as the most democratic edict ever written. If the Iraqis abide by it, there will be no terrorism against America.

130 posted on 10/27/2005 4:31:05 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar; TomasUSMC

Don't worry.

there is one and only one dirty word in the world, and that is Islam.

Tomas won't ever be happy with the Iraqi Constitution as it stands.

Guess that means IT'S A GOOD THING!!


:-)


HOOOAH!!


132 posted on 10/27/2005 4:36:05 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: kabar
Article (2):

1st -- Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:

(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.



The history of the last 1000 years of Islam is proof enough for me that the above will be used by the hard core moslem, of which the shiites are, to veto all the rest of the constitution that you posted.

What if the Shiite Iraqi PM (60 percent of Iraq is Shiite) does as he has promised and establishes Sharia Law? Will not Sharia Law be paramount over all other law? When a man beats his wife - as is allowed in Sharia Law (as long as he doesn't mark her), will he be protected against any criminal charges coming from say -

Article (14): Iraqis are equal before the law without discrimination because of sex... .?

You say you lived in the ME so I DO want to hear your answer.

I believe in giving freedom to the people - but it must be real freedom, not Islam, at least IMO, Real freedom does not exist under Islam.
133 posted on 10/27/2005 4:46:32 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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