Posted on 10/27/2005 2:20:13 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
"Unfortunately, the info about bin Laden's satellite phone came through prosecutor Duncan Fitzgerald (any relation?) in open court: "
Yeah and the other ignorant geologist who wanted 15 mins of fame who correctly ID'd the area in Afgh. from the rock formations in the background of one of the first BL videos - nuts!
All that is way beyond dubious, and I believe it is far more believable that they have been planning this as a way to discredit the Bush administration, especially since a well known liberal hack like wilson would be the LAST person the Bush administraton would ask to go to Niger.
In addition to the fact that wilson said he proved the forgery of Nigerian government documents while he was there. Yet the "documents" he supposedly proved were forgeries, were dated several months AFTER he was there, and didn't exist when he was there.
All this is MUCH MORE believable than the idea that Rove and Libby, who the liberals say are evil conservative masterminds, made the bonehead mistake of "outing" someone to discredit Wilson, when you could more than discredit wilson without even mentioning he was married. The whole thing stinks of manipulation and liberal spin.
Yes, there's one set of laws that apply to peons and Republican office holders; an exemption from any and all laws for Democrat office holders. No reason for that to change since Republicans seem satisfied with the rules as they are and Democrats are certainly not complaining.
"In addition to the fact that wilson said he proved the forgery of Nigerian government documents while he was there. Yet the "documents" he supposedly proved were forgeries, were dated several months AFTER he was there, and didn't exist when he was there."
He was there when the original forgeries surfaced 18 months before this trip - I read somewhere - and may have seen them then - his (former) wife at the time - not Val - was a French agent working at the French Embassy in Niger.
Outed as a CIA agent as early as Aldrich Ames. Withdrawn from foreign service some time prior to the end of 1997. Married a U.S. ambassador, effectively ending chances for truly covert foreign service even without the previous incident.
And for his future employment. The MSM would do a job on him that would make them all look like they have been kind to Bush & co. if he doesn't return indictments and he knows it.
Then why were the documents he supposedly showed as forgeries dated months after his return? That has been well established. He isn't even qualified to do that, or investigate a uranium purchase.
re: not resigning because they know that haven't done a flipping thing wrong
Under this reasoning Clinton should have resigned when he was impeached. Impeachment is to a President what indictment is to the rest of us.
I would think the President and his staff would make a huge deal of everyone involved refusing to resign simply because they had been accused of a crime. If indictment were guilt then there would be no reason for a trial, in court or in the Senate.
Thank you. 1997, even further back than I recalled. There is no way Fitzgerald can indict Rove or Libby and be taken seriously. Some lame ambiguous perjury or obstruction chage won't hold water either. Any more than the bogus charges against DeLay. Breaking a laundering law two years before it was a law, and conspiring to defeat democrats, not only not a crime, but earle doesn't even have the evidence he said he had to get the indictment. DeLay and plame-Gate are NOTHING more than the attempted criminalization of Conservatives, because liberals suck and can't win based on their liberal ideology because for TEN YEARS America has said NO to liberalism. That's the reality of all this.
If Rove and Libby are indicted and they TRULY KNOW they did NOTHING wrong. They should't step down. I wouldn't if I were them. SCREW liberals! You don't step down and let people win when you KNOW you are not guilty. Just like innocent people accused of a crime do not take deals or plead guilty. It's a crock.
Well that is the left for you. Situational ethics. Do as I say not as I do, what's illegal for you is okay for me. That's the modern day liberal.
THAT is what I could go for. I was hopeful for that before Miers, then it was Miers, and I was just trying to hold off until the hearings, but that very first day even, I said I wish it had been Luddig or Jones or Owens or Pryor. If conservatives can put MAJOR pressure on the RINOs, a REAL conservative that will do to the libs what you said, can be confirmed, but only if the RINOs are reminded in explicit terms what will happen to them if they don't vote to confirm.
When I first bought my weekend cabin in the country, I'd had a quiet few drinks to celebrate and went out to irrigate the flower bed from the front deck at about 2 am. Well I'm standing there, attending to nature's call, when this bashee starts yowling and hissing and howling at me from the top of the table I'd just that day put on the deck. I'd also left the remains of the first-night's BBQ on it, and it was the biggest, angriest coon I'd ever seen.
Scared me so much I had to go and have another drink!
I just learned that Fitzgerald is a Regis High School graduate, like me! I'm sure he is a fair man.
"Someday Republicans might learn to fight back".
I think at this point in time we do need a third party. The Conservative Party. The Republican Party is simply not doing the job by not fighting back.
Right you are. Bring it on.
Maybe we're in better shape than we think. Hannity did a good job of putting it in perspective yesterday. He pointed out we have the congress going back to the drawing board to find ways to eliminate spending, they're beginning to take illegal immigration seriously, and Miers has withdrawn her nomination.
We need to put even more pressure on them.
• The Illegal gathering of confidential FBI files on political opponents - as the Clinton White House did in the Filegate case. Legal resolution: No indictments.
Why the hell not?
re: Bring it on.
The longer we delay taking on these people the harder it's going to be to win. They have spent years quietly chipping away at our way of life.
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