Posted on 10/27/2005 7:20:09 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
Ping!
""85% of embryos transferred in the procedure die in the process.""
""However, with those [above argument] ignored, and IVF accepted as a moral procedure in most of the world,""
Go, run now and throw away all your kitchen knives!!!! People use them to kill!!!!
There's a $10,360 tax credit for adoption, and a $5,000 tax-deductable subsidy available through an employer via some corporate tax incentives. Other adoption expenses are not tax deductable, though, so the remaining $15,000+ we'll be paying with after-tax dollars.
IVF has blessed countless millions, including Christians, who are infertile. Just because it can be used to murder, doesn't make the technology evil. Do you own a gun? They're used to murder, y'know. But we shouldn't go outlawing guns.
So what about a man who marries a woman who has her tubes tied during a previous marriage.. a marriage that didnt even end on her accord.
Should her husband only have to be someone who's had children or doesn't care about children?
Should that man select surgery for his wife that could endanger her?
Or do you think it would be ok with God after much prayer and thought that God would say it's ok to have a child this way.
Remember man can do great evil with technology.. but not all technology is used for evil.
Don't be blanket in all your statements. God is loving.. and he does command that we not all be as judgemental as you currently are.
He can't help judging. God has sent him to judge. Oh wait, Jesus said, judge not, lest you be judged. I guess he doesn't really know the true heart of Jesus...
My my, you do babble don'tchaknow. You appear quite learned in the lieberal art of twisting and dissembling (you even contradict yourself from sentence to sentence; astounding deceitful dexterity that). You won't be happy here at FR. We tend to be pro-life. Need an explanation of what that means?
Care to write another adjective-filled dissertation?
Typicasl lieberal lickspittle, taking a sentence from Scripture out of context and twisting it to fit the lieberal way: "Oh wait, Jesus said, judge not, lest you be judged. I guess he doesn't really know the true heart of Jesus..." And you assume to know? Bwahahahahaha
The words of Jesus upset the Pharisees then. So they do now.
You offered, "I am pro-life." Is embryo an age you passed through in your lifetime?
You sound like a Fred Phelps-type. Do you attend his cult?
Please write clearly. Who are "they" in your first sentence? And what is it "they" have chosen to do? "What" is not an excuse to eliminate technology? (A technology, I might point out, that has killed hundreds of thousands of human beings, if not millions). Perhaps if you would use nouns instead of pronouns you might even see the lack of logic in your statements.
The news in this article is that the United States of America has gone another step further in promoting the death of innocents. That is horrendous. How can you defend such "technology." I am sure that the wonderous technologies used in Germany in the 40's were touted as beneficial "technologies" too.
Of course I realize it's a sinful world. I hate the idea that my country has made it legal to kill innocents. Obviously that concept is beyond others.
Same with automobiles. Leading cause of death for many people groups, auto accidents. You should be Amish. Maybe you are.
Any technology can be used to kill.
What do you think happens to most embryos which are not implanted? They most often linger in deep freeze for years and years, until they are finally discarded.
The fatality rate for thawing embryos is about 50%, and implantation fatality rate is about 70%.
There is work underway to allow for a form of adoption of these tiny human forms, but the courts treat them as property, not individuals, so the transfer of the frozen embryos is a contract over property, not an "adoption" per se.
That's still not a reason to eradicate the entire technology that has conceived children for countless infertile couples, including Christians. What the general population does, follows in line with a sinful humanity. But educating them is the answer, not blindly destroying technology that does good.
The Lord hears all our prayers and will answer them. You may not like or agree with the answer, but you must trust his Will that it is for the greater good of your soul.
I don't need nor want your help.
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