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Chalmers H. 'Slick' Goodlin, 82; Dispute Cost Him Chance to Break Sound Barrier
LA Times ^ | 10/28/05 | Valerie J. Nelson

Posted on 10/28/2005 9:38:21 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Chalmers H. "Slick" Goodlin, a test pilot who took the X-1 aircraft to near-supersonic speeds but became a footnote in aviation history when he lost his cockpit seat — and the right to shatter the sound barrier for the first time — to a young Chuck Yeager, has died. He was 82.

Goodlin, who flew military planes for three countries, died of cancer Oct. 20 at his home in West Palm Beach, Fla., his family announced.

After 26 test flights in the X-1, Goodlin was on the brink of making the first supersonic flight when he resigned over a contract dispute. Bell Aircraft Corp., the plane's manufacturer, refused to pay him a $150,000 bonus for the milestone flight.

The military subsequently took over the program, and Yeager achieved stardom on Oct. 14, 1947, at Muroc Army Air Field (now Edwards Air Force Base) by becoming the first human to fly faster than the speed of sound. He did it for his regular captain's salary: $3,396 a year.

For the rest of his life, Goodlin remained bitter about the lost opportunity, and he and Yeager feuded publicly.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: couldabeenacontender; hechosepoorly; obituary; yeager
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1 posted on 10/28/2005 9:38:22 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Shoulda taken the chance, pal.


2 posted on 10/28/2005 9:40:58 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: BurbankKarl

The central message I got from the Right stuff - was that Yeager had the rightest stuff of all even though he was not selected for the astronaut program.


3 posted on 10/28/2005 9:42:57 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: BurbankKarl

He should have paid the manufacturer for the ride.


4 posted on 10/28/2005 9:43:03 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: BurbankKarl
— and the right to shatter the sound barrier for the first time —

In that aircraft. WWII pilots had already broken the sound barrier.

5 posted on 10/28/2005 9:46:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: BurbankKarl
Image hosted by Photobucket.com dumb azz prolly coulda made a million bucks in endorsements by breaking the record...
6 posted on 10/28/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Who did? The Germans in a steep dive? I have heard the Boeing test pilots have done it in a 727.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 9:47:37 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Numerous fighter pilots in dives.

'Slick' had quite the career.

Renowned pilot lived doing what he loved


Chalmers H. "Slick" Goodlin

8 posted on 10/28/2005 9:52:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: BurbankKarl

A particularly dumb decision with an appropriate consequence.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 9:55:17 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not the same thing, nor are they mutually exclusive.)
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To: gondramB

He was passed over because he only had a high school education. Pity.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 9:56:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Janice Rogers Brown is the only High Court nominee that is acceptable to me, period.)
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11 posted on 10/28/2005 9:57:21 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: BurbankKarl

RIP for a great pilot. History turns on those little things, and there's no sense in being bitter about it. I'd be upset if my fictional portrayal was inaccurate, too.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 9:58:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: A.A. Cunningham
WWII pilots had already broken the sound barrier.

Generally shortly before installing a large hole in the ground. The fastest production planes in WWII that I can think of would be the ME-163 series, which was just barely subsonic.

13 posted on 10/28/2005 10:17:42 AM PDT by PAR35
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Pilots of Spitfires, Mustangs, Corsairs, Hellcats, ME-262s, Thunderbolts, etc. all broke the sound barrier, unofficially, in dives during WWII and lived to talk about it. Me-163s routinely broke the sound barrier.


14 posted on 10/28/2005 10:30:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Got any documentation for that? Particularly for the Thunderbolt. Max speed 433, Cruise 350.

The best case is made by Hans Mutke in a 262.

http://mach1.luftarchiv.de/first_flg.htm

But even there, objective analysis has put his maximum speed below the sound barrier.

See http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0198c.shtml

So if you do have anything to back this up, I'd be interested in reading it.


15 posted on 10/28/2005 10:50:04 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: A.A. Cunningham

A lot of them lived to tell about it. More than a few did not.


16 posted on 10/28/2005 11:05:18 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: A.A. Cunningham
In that aircraft. WWII pilots had already broken the sound barrier.

I don't think so.
They may have reached the unstable regime between subsonic and supersonic, but that not the same thing.

17 posted on 10/28/2005 11:08:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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Numerous fighter pilots in dives.

I think you confuse falling with flying.

18 posted on 10/28/2005 11:10:24 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: PAR35
Join me next Friday at the Denver Athletic Club for the Marine Corps Birthday Luncheon and you can speak to some WWII fighter pilots who claim to have broken the sound barrier while fighting in the South Pacific.

For other sources, which are albeit subjective, Google is a good place for you to start. Read Aces Wild as well. George Welch, flying an XF-86 and some MiG-15 pilots, along with some Meteor pilots, most likely beat Yeager to the punch too but we'll never know, officially.

19 posted on 10/28/2005 11:22:29 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
George Welch, flying an XF-86 and some MiG-15 pilots, along with some Meteor pilots, most likely beat Yeager to the punch too but we'll never know, officially.

Therein lies the tale, and is why this sort of thing is determined by officially documenting it.
Pilots are a special breed, and unreliable in observations which glorify their own accomplishments. Ego is a major part of self-serving stories.

20 posted on 10/28/2005 11:30:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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