Jihad Comes to Small Town USA: Part 6

LauraMansfield.com ^ | October 31, 2005 | Laura Mansfield

[AmericaUnite]

As a student nurse in a NYC hosp back in the day, I had friends who went out with doctors from the Middle East. Except for one, these guys had no intention of marrying them. Their religion was not a topic of discussion. The only one I know did marry, seem to take the reins in the marriage. He must have been an anomaly.

[dagoofyfoot]

How much did you know about Islam over 20 years ago?


Not much....actually I learned all I need to know about islam on 9/11


I'm speaking from what the Bible says...

NOT THE QURAN 20 YEARS, 10 YEARS,OR 5 MINUTES AGO!

[Calpernia]

I didn't start understanding much about Islam until December 2001.

[dagoofyfoot]

I didn't start understanding much about Islam until December 2001


I hope that's all you needed to know about it also...

[Calpernia]

Absolutely.

[WorkingClassFilth]

"You are ignoring the story in favor of some Pharisitical rant."

Actually, I don't think that is the case. I think it a fair bet to say that we're nearly all on the same page (here on FR) as to the insidious nature of Islam. To jump in the pile shouting about the evil Mooslims everytime somebody posts an article exposing another facet of Islam is hardly my idea of straining a camel.

What interested me, and still does, is the way Christians deny the erosion of their own faith while screaming bloody murder about some pagan moon god. That, Sir, is the crux.

A few days ago, somebody posted an article about some woman ('spiritual leader') with a PhD who ran some Protestant church somewhere. The woman wanted to get her flock involved in the church's activities (social justice, etc.) so she started an art fair at the church. The gist was about an old lady and a heartwarming story of discovery, etc. Many posters discussed what a wonderful story this was because of the old woman's kindness and a host of other items.

I didn't even post because I knew a firestorm of debate would arise from the fact that these people didn't see the illogic of the central character, institution and function of the 'religious faith' in the story. At its root is the increasing failure of Christianity to make its case and preserve its truths. The notion of art sale or, in this case, intermarriage with a Muslim is common evidence in this decline and dilution.

I am posting these observations as an observer of Christianity not as a church member so I don't even pretend to be a zealous defender of the faith. It goes without saying that Europe is toast in terms of Muslim subversion and infiltration and not a little part is the total destruction of Christianity on that continent in the wake of WWII. I would say that were right on schedule in our generational lag behind Europe and that these kinds of stories are evidence.

To me, the only outstanding feature of this story is not that some deluded woman (actually two) married some swine (a very, very old story). The bigger interest is that people here not only overlook such an elementary tenet of their supposed faith, but that they defend and minimize its importance.

In terms of cultural survival and preserving critical institutions that make the country work, I think these distinctions can hardly be called "straining gnats."

[WorkingClassFilth]

If I miss the mark, please tell me. Isn't the message of the NT that the bonds under the new covenant are those of love and willful obedience? In that, not a jot or tittle of the law goes away but that all things are fulfilled in devotion of a believers life? I think that it is obvious and basic that somebody giving their lives in service to their God would seek to fulfill their commitment in all areas of their lives. Doing so, of course, would impact the most important spheres of their lives (i.e., marriage and child rearing).

Frankly, to look upon these things as mere details and irrelevant to the basic thrust of the Christian life seems a little specious and dishonest. But then, this is the age where there are no absolutes anyway, so why not adopt a smorgasbord attitude toward faith and take a little bit of everything that appeals to you and leave what does not. IMO, that is what is at the core of this article. Had the women actually grasped the fundamental tenets of their faith in the beginning, none of the later events would have occurred.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Your post illuminates some things that I am less equipped to bring out - thanks!

It may be that this woman is in some kind of process or epiphany, but I think one of the bigger lessons here is that the 'church' in America is in a very serious state of decline and the fruits of that decline are in evidence in a multitude of stories like this.

Even a member of the working class filth can see that.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Here is a further example of what I am driving at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513999/posts

The crisis of the entire Christian church to come to terms with what if believes should be evident to all. From that confusion, comes a myriad of ills where behavior and faith collide. For many, the brunt of the damage is borne in subverting their version of 'faith' so that they can continue doing whatever it is they want to do.

'Nuff said.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Here is a clear example of the dangers of collusion through well meaning watering down of original purpose and intent:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513991/posts

You'll note that FReepers ire is less focussed on the dirty deeds of the Muslim extremists and more incredulous anger at the board of education that should be reinforcing American ideals and yet is stupid enough to not only allow such travesties to happen but, astoundingly, they have rewarded such deviance. In this story, substitute Christianity for the BOE and you'll get my drift...

[Velveeta]

If I miss the mark, please tell me.

I believe you missed the mark as well as the point of this thread, which is:

Jihad Comes to Small Town USA

That said, if someone was lost and found their way back to the Lord, I believe the Lord understands.

It's not for me to judge, but it is cause to rejoice.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Oy.

[Velveeta]

Vey.

[hosepipe]

What is taught to children at school is very important to a society..

What is your kids learning at public school, high school, college..
Leftist teachers, professors are doing the same.. have been for many years.. Mostly its what they are NOT teaching them more than what they are..