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Barone: Why Democrats won't want to oppose Samuel Alito
US News & World Report ^ | November 1, 2005 | Michael Barone

Posted on 11/01/2005 4:23:15 PM PST by RWR8189

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1 posted on 11/01/2005 4:23:17 PM PST by RWR8189
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Specter, Graham and De Wine. McCain sounding wobbly. Go ahead and filibuster Dems, there is a nuke in your future!
2 posted on 11/01/2005 4:26:04 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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To: RWR8189

He's in like Flynn!


3 posted on 11/01/2005 4:36:29 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: RWR8189

Bush has made the Democrats an offer they can't refuse.


4 posted on 11/01/2005 4:40:38 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: MNJohnnie
I don't think the Rats will filibuster. They can't afford to lose that fight, so they'll refuse to have it.

The high court moves one-half seat to the right. Kennedy becomes the swing vote.

They can live with that.

If Ginsburg's or Stevens's seat comes open then all hell breaks lose.

They'll have nothing to lose by filibustering because it's Custer's Last Stand as far the liberals are concerned.

5 posted on 11/01/2005 4:41:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MNJohnnie

"Go ahead and filibuster Dems, there is a nuke in your future!"

Or at least the trunk of someone's car. ~;^D


6 posted on 11/01/2005 4:47:23 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: RWR8189

I wonder how much longer it's going to be until political assassination is the only tool left to the Democrats?


7 posted on 11/01/2005 5:01:39 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Dog Gone

It would be to our advantage to use the constitutional option now to replace O'Connor, that way we are ensured that only 50+ VPOTUS are needed to confirm the next nominee.

Some wobbly RINOs might be scared to go nuclear when we are replacing Stevens or Ginsberg.


8 posted on 11/01/2005 5:03:12 PM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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What I've been saying for days (though not as well as Barone, of course): the 10 Dem Senators in "red" states up for re-election in '06 and '08 would have to be nuts to oppose a qualified, experienced conservative judge, especially after the deference shown Clinton in votes on Ginsburg (96-3) and Breyer (87-9).

Now if we could only get the people in these states to realize that continually electing Dems to the Senate and voting strongly for Republicans for President is schizophrenic...

9 posted on 11/01/2005 5:03:24 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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That's exactly why I think the Democrats will cave before we can use it on this nomination. If they are even remotely intelligent, they'll adopt the "live to fight another day" principle.


10 posted on 11/01/2005 5:05:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It seems like they've been hinting at that for some time.


11 posted on 11/01/2005 5:07:22 PM PST by JusPasenThru (http://giinthesky.blogspot.com)
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To: RWR8189

eh...Italian Americans?...I find it too hard to buy what this author is saying. Italian is not the issue, but religion is - such as if his Catholicity is his foundation for his conservativism. Bottom line is that he is conservative, so many conservative Catholics (Italian or otherwise) like myself will support him.


12 posted on 11/01/2005 5:34:41 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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"He was U.S. attorney for New Jersey, a high-pressure job in a state where corruption is—how shall we say this?—not unknown"

You gotta love Barone.

13 posted on 11/01/2005 5:51:09 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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I understand the reasoning here, and figure it is probably fairly accurate.

But, gee whiz, in reality what does having italian blood have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing. It is an extremely sad commentary on our society when attributes such as the birthplace of one's parents are considered part of qualifications for such a [or any] position.

And the real irony here is that the people that put the most stock in sex and race as qualifications (i.e. Bush should have appointed a minority or woman for balance) are the first to claim we shouldn't single people out because of their race and/or sex. But that is all they do, all of the time. And republicans do a very poor job of challenging them on it.


14 posted on 11/01/2005 5:58:39 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I suppose someone had to actually voice that...


15 posted on 11/01/2005 5:59:51 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Dog Gone

The problem is, that the longer they wait to run a filibuster, the worse their political problem the next time, on the next nominee.

Suppose, for example, Ginsberg or Stevens were to leave the Court, and The President were to replace that person with someone even as "moderate" as Kennedy --- that would really cook the liberal goose - yet could they filibuster such a candidate? (Suppose for purposes of this discussion, judicial philosophy of Gonzales...)

Their problem is right now... with this nomination ... the next one may be too late because even a moderate justice may well hose them.


16 posted on 11/01/2005 6:05:14 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I believe that the R philosophy of that question is that those who can be persuaded to vote Republican to begin with are smart enough to figure out the bigotry themselves, without having to be bashed over the head with it. Before talk radio and the internet, the R's had that philosophy, stuck with it and you had to be analyze it for yourself. Now, anybody who has ears will be exposed without the R politicians having to engage the question directly.


17 posted on 11/01/2005 6:10:27 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
I think you're probably right, which is why their position is deteriorating all the time. Bush could get away, I think, with nominating Gonzales or Miers next time and put the left in a real bind.

I don't think he'll do that, though. His short list was Miers, Alito, and Luttig. Miers blew her chances by failing to wow the senators in personal visits, and Bush doesn't give second chances. He never has.

I'd have to say that unless something new comes up with Luttig, he's the choice to replace Ginsburg or Stevens if neither is able to outlast the Bush Presidency.

A lot depends one whether another vacancy occurs before or after the 2006 elections and whether that changes the senatorial lineup.

18 posted on 11/01/2005 6:17:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

100% agreement with your post - every single detail.


19 posted on 11/01/2005 6:35:00 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Dog Gone

Re-reading your post...

I would certainly love it if he were to succumb to "political correctness" and nominate JRB for the next opening...

LOL

Apoplexy unlimited for the Demodogs then!

(SNAP *** *** time for me to wake up from this wet dream...)


20 posted on 11/01/2005 6:38:27 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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