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Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense
RBC.ru via translation ^ | November 2, 2005

Posted on 11/01/2005 11:32:56 PM PST by HAL9000

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To: HAL9000
Simple answer, add one pound of cobalt to each American warhead and a proximity sensor trigger.

The radioactive clouds of cobalt would overwhelm Russia's ability to respond for a few hundred thousand years.

Hard to stop fallout. Russia wants to up the stakes, we could respond with a doomsday weapon. Would bring the posturing and maneuvering to a complete halt for a generation.

While we are at it, demand Russia sink its ballistic subs, or we sink Russia, permanently. Since we are called the worlds dictator by all the world's dictators, bout time we dictated.
41 posted on 11/02/2005 3:24:12 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
While we are at it, demand Russia sink its ballistic subs, or we sink Russia, permanently. Since we are called the worlds dictator by all the world's dictators, bout time we dictated.

Well, that is what the new warheads are for. To counterbalance the ideas like the one you posted.

It is called MAD - mutual assured destruction.

These weapons are built to never being used. I hope they will pass their time sitting in silos and underground hangars and will be scrapped when the time comes. They are just a warranty that there will be not so much dictating imposed on us, Russians. Well, unless our own gevernment becomes so corrupt it decides to sell their own country.

42 posted on 11/02/2005 4:08:24 AM PST by K. Smirnov (Do not let the sands of time get into your lunch)
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To: K. Smirnov

Russia needs to take a big chill pill. America is still a democratic republic, and unless Russia gives the American people a real good reason to think it has become a world aggressor once more, the American people will regard Russia with a yawn. China is much more a concern now. We don't like nuclear wars, they're messy and inconvenient.


43 posted on 11/02/2005 4:13:59 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Hey what kind of mobile launchers do we have? Also, do we have any rail launched missiles anymore?

A single "boomer" has enough nuclear (nukular)firepower to destroy the world. We can launch from anywhere in the world.

44 posted on 11/02/2005 4:55:08 AM PST by exDemocratbutnotRepubican
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To: HAL9000

So they'll be selling this to Iran and Syria asap...right?


45 posted on 11/02/2005 4:59:55 AM PST by hershey
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To: HAL9000

Send ALGORE over to Russia with more of our tax dollars quick. /sarcasm


46 posted on 11/02/2005 5:01:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
do we have any rail launched missiles anymore?

This concept never got off the drawing boards. Our sub launched missiles are our only mobile strategic missiles.

47 posted on 11/02/2005 5:11:44 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty
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To: ChristianDefender
The Russians (and the Soviets before the fall of Communism) always built larger missiles with more powerful warheads, to make up for the inaccuracy of their guidance systems. This is nothing new
48 posted on 11/02/2005 5:37:52 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: Cheburashka

Does a nuclear missile need big accuracy?


49 posted on 11/02/2005 5:55:19 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Freelance Warrior

If you're trying to kill a nuclear missile in a hardened silo in South Dakota, yes.

If you're trying to hit Chicago (which is where I live), not so much. You set off a nuclear weapon inside the city limits, it makes a mess.

However, the Chicago City Council has outlawed transportation of nuclear weapons inside Chicago city limits, so if the Russians tried, they would be in violation of city ordinances.

Did I mention that Chicago aldermen are idiots?


50 posted on 11/02/2005 6:05:33 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: HAL9000

That's alright. Our defence system is designed to seek a second target should it be evaded by in-comings. Secondary target is Pootin's anus.


51 posted on 11/02/2005 6:11:30 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Better an empty seat on the US Supreme Court, than seating anyone Kerry & Kennedy would gush over.)
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To: zarf
walking zombies

Zombies

52 posted on 11/02/2005 6:33:51 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Cheburashka
Last time a cruise missile launched from a Russian bomber successfully hit a hut in a distant abandoned Arctic village

I think the ICBM's targeting system isn't much different from the one of a ballistic missile.

As for city councils and nuclear weapons I know that it's illegal for an individual to own one in Utah. The mormons may have several wives, an A-bomb'd be good in maintaining peace in such a family :)

53 posted on 11/02/2005 7:09:56 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Cheburashka

Sorry, I meant: ...different from the one of a cruise missile.


54 posted on 11/02/2005 7:29:12 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: HAL9000

RE: Under the application of strategic purpose of Nikolay Solovtsova ordering rocket armies

I wanted to point out this specific language. We in the West would not talk of "rocket armies." To us, rockets are sort of a deadman switch, a fall back position of last resort. Anti Western forces, on the other hand, think of them as really big artillery.


55 posted on 11/02/2005 8:01:20 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

We have nothing, in terms of anything more than lauchers for very short range missiles. The US has never properly invested in ground mobility. The leaders are the Russians and the Red Chinese.


56 posted on 11/02/2005 8:02:47 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: zarf

But firstly, you assume a volley. What if the defender is attacked without warning and is so dramatically damaged that there is no real response possible? Secondly, you grossly overestimate the actual effects of realistic usage of such munitions. The greatest utility of nuclear strategic munitions is to blow huge holes in an adversary's strategic forces and in their command and control. I realize we in the West have been brainwashed by pacifists, utopians and intellectuals into imagining nuclear carpet bombing, last days spent on beaches in Australia and nuclear winters. Certainly, such notions provide drama, and give the pacifists and disarmament fanatics their perceived bully pulpit. Courageous are the men of the West who dare to challenge this orthodoxy.


57 posted on 11/02/2005 8:07:11 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: The Red Zone

No.


58 posted on 11/02/2005 8:08:34 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Threepwood

Since the late 1980s, the embargo of Western technology imposed on Russia has been all but shattered. Combined with their own up and coming native high tech industry, this has allowed upgrades.


59 posted on 11/02/2005 8:09:59 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The thing I'd be concerned about is two fold. Firstly, that the Russians have built and hidden "off the books" warheads and platforms in other countries besides Russia. And secondly, that some of the nuclear weapons being developed in China, and other countries, with the help of Russian engineers and scientists, are subject to sudden expedient acquisition by the Russians. Given the rise of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, horrible scenarios are possible.


60 posted on 11/02/2005 8:12:30 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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