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Plamegate's Real Liar(L.A. Times no less!)
LOS ANGELES TIMES ^ | November 2, 2005 | Max Boot

Posted on 11/02/2005 5:20:09 AM PST by kellynla

'SCOOTER" LIBBY'S indictment was not exactly good news for the White House, but it could have been a lot worse. Feverish speculation had been building that Karl Rove would soon be "frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs," as Valerie Plame's bombastic hubby, Joe Wilson, had hoped. Or even that Dick Cheney would have to resign.

But with his investigation all but over, prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has found no criminal conspiracy and no violations of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which makes it a crime in some circumstances to disclose the names of undercover CIA operatives. Among other problems, Plame doesn't seem to fit the act's definition of a "covert agent" — someone who "has within the last five years served outside the United States." By 2003, Plame had apparently been working in Langley, Va., for at least six years, which means that, mystery of mysteries, the vice president's chief of staff was indicted for covering up something that wasn't a crime.

Making the best of a weak hand, Democrats argued that the case was not about petty-ante perjury but, as Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid put it, "about how the Bush White House manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to bolster its case for the war in Iraq and to discredit anyone who dared to challenge the president." The problem here is that the one undisputed liar in this whole sordid affair doesn't work for the administration. In his attempts to turn his wife into an antiwar martyr, Joseph C. Wilson IV has retailed more whoppers than Burger King.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cialeak; libby; plamegate; valerieplame; wilson
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"By 2003, Plame had apparently been working in Langley, Va., for at least six years, which means that, mystery of mysteries, the vice president's chief of staff was indicted for covering up something that wasn't a crime.

AMEN!

What I've been saying for months!

Semper Fi,
Kelly
1 posted on 11/02/2005 5:20:10 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

I have had just about all of the freaking Dimcrats I can stand!


2 posted on 11/02/2005 5:22:46 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: kellynla

Like you said...well, well, well!


3 posted on 11/02/2005 5:29:13 AM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: kellynla

Could this revelation of a covert prison system of the CIA which includes some eight countries around the world, be less damaging than the public learning the name of a CIA employee who might have been a "covert" agent back in the days of Aldrich Ames?

The double agentry of Ames probably led indirectly to the removal from the field of Valerie Plame, but in any case, there is a secret culture within CIA that is determined to work at cross purposes with the Bush Administration, and they are being squeezed out by Porter Goss. This is their call to resistance, and it matters not if the entire structure is pulled down on their own heads. If they go, everybody goes.


4 posted on 11/02/2005 5:30:20 AM PST by alloysteel (Payback and reality may not be related, but they can both be a b*tch.)
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To: kellynla
The problem here is that the one undisputed liar in this whole sordid affair doesn't work for the administration. In his attempts to turn his wife into an antiwar martyr, Joseph C. Wilson IV has retailed more whoppers than Burger King.

Temperature in Hades this morning? Five degrees below zero?

5 posted on 11/02/2005 5:32:23 AM PST by A message
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To: alloysteel
Do they need volunteers to go to the covert prisons and torture AlQaida? Seems to me we should find plenty of people for that.

Heckfire, we could find some to go to the LA Times and torture people if they wanted!

6 posted on 11/02/2005 5:32:31 AM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: kellynla
LA Times is getting the story right

It's the end of the world as we know it.

7 posted on 11/02/2005 5:33:46 AM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: kellynla

I had to click through to the source link before I'd believe the L.A. Times really printed this.

Of course, FR and the blogosphere has known this for months, maybe a year+?


8 posted on 11/02/2005 5:34:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: A message

yep, the editorial page of the L.A. Times has changed dramatically since Max Boot arrived...

Michael Ramirez was getting verrrrry lonely. LOL


9 posted on 11/02/2005 5:35:32 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
This is just an opinion column and doesn't represnet the editorial view of the newspaper. Nonetheless I sent them the following email thanking them for printing this opinion piece.

I would like to commend the LA Times for running Max Boot's opinion column about Plamegate's Real Liar. Although I realize that it's an opinion column and probably does NOT represent the editorial view of the LA Times, it is about time that people realize what has happened here. The CIA did something either incredibly stupid by sending Wilson and permitting him to publish a truth-twisting opinion piece or they conspired to discredit a duly elected President and his administration. Liberals have worried for years about an "out of control" CIA that might act domestically. Now we have a situation that demands an investigation into that very real possibility. Unfortunately liberals are too blinded by Bush-hatred and they look the other way when such things may indeed have happened.

How about putting a few reporters on that topic? You might sell a few more newspapers. The Democrat party line is available everywhere else for free.

10 posted on 11/02/2005 5:36:22 AM PST by rhombus
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To: kellynla

bttt


11 posted on 11/02/2005 5:36:42 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: kellynla
All you ever need to know about this whole Plame thing...

FREEPER ORIGINAL: Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal"

12 posted on 11/02/2005 5:37:22 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: kellynla

13 posted on 11/02/2005 5:47:47 AM PST by lotsaguns
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To: kellynla

This from the LA Times???!

Looks like there's some ice skating going on in hell today...


14 posted on 11/02/2005 5:49:58 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: lotsaguns
Karl Rove ruined our lives!


15 posted on 11/02/2005 5:51:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: rhombus
One of the most conservative political cartoonist, Michael Ramirez is at the LA Times. He is a good friend of Paul Shanklin the parody guy on Rush.
16 posted on 11/02/2005 5:53:37 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: kellynla

The reporters are concerned that their USG sources will dry up. Their support for an investigation into the Plame leak has come back to bite them, especially since their brethern, Russert, Miller, and Cooper, are material witnesses. How sweet it is.


17 posted on 11/02/2005 5:54:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: alloysteel
".... covert prison system of the CIA "

The CIA is ratcheting up the heat on the WH. They are using the useful idiots in the dim party and feeding them all manner of "revelations".

Its long past time for the CIA to be held accountable.

Negroponte do your freekin'job!

18 posted on 11/02/2005 5:57:51 AM PST by Pietro
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To: kellynla

Fitz knew that within a week. The rest of his "investigation" was a perjury trap.


19 posted on 11/02/2005 5:59:03 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: kellynla
Since the Republican majority gets to control what gets investigated, why don't they call for an investigation into how the CIA, through its operatives Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson, conspired to undermine a sitting administration?

The fact that Wilson was allowed to go on a mission for the CIA without signing a disclosure agreement, and returns from the mission without filing a written report, indicates that sinister motives prevailed.

Let's play offense for a change!

20 posted on 11/02/2005 6:00:00 AM PST by wayoverontheright (.)
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