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Court says parents not sole providers of kids' sex education
AP ^ | 11/2/5 | DAVID KRAVETS

Posted on 11/02/2005 2:26:45 PM PST by SmithL

an Francisco (AP) --

A federal appeals court on Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit by elementary school parents who were outraged that the Palmdale School District had surveyed students about sex.

While the surveys asked students how often they thought about sex, among other questions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said parents of public school children have no "fundamental right" to be the exclusive provider of sexual information to their children. The parents maintained they had the sole right "to control the upbringing of their children by introducing them to matters of and relating to sex."

The plaintiffs had sought unspecified monetary damages.

In upholding a lower court that had also ruled against the parents, a three-judge panel of the appeals court here dismissed the case, ruling unanimously that "parents are possessed of no constitutional right to prevent the public schools from providing information on that subject to their students in any forum or manner they select."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircus; firsttheycameforkids; homosexualagenda; judicialtyranny; nannystate; ninthcircuit; parentalrights; pspl; ruling; sexeducation; sexindoctrination; timetohomeschool
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To: SmithL
9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said parents of public school children have no "fundamental right" to be the exclusive provider of sexual information to their children.

Seems to abridge the parents right to practice religious beliefs e.g. teach thier precepts of morality to their children -exclusivity is supposedly guaranteed by the constitution... The state sponsored secular humanistic religion takes precedence over the parents religion...

This will be overturned...

81 posted on 11/02/2005 9:17:19 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: L98Fiero

Exactly.

Parents, if you love your kids, HOMESCHOOL them.


82 posted on 11/02/2005 9:26:57 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: SmithL

Odd to see a thread full of conservatives blasting the 9th Circuit for refusing to engage in judicial activism. Did anyone notice that the lawsuit demanded that the court create a new right out of thin air?


83 posted on 11/02/2005 9:45:18 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: littleleaguemom

"an outside psychologist"? Dollars to doughnuts you can find that list of students and answers on some pedofile forum.


84 posted on 11/02/2005 10:09:04 PM PST by Old Flat Toad
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To: Crackingham
Odd to see a thread full of conservatives blasting the 9th Circuit for refusing to engage in judicial activism. Did anyone notice that the lawsuit demanded that the court create a new right out of thin air?

Your perception is at odds with reality.

85 posted on 11/02/2005 10:26:49 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: SmithL
Yep. Its a breathtaking display of judicial activism. And one perfectly consistent with the liberal belief Big Government trumps Family - i.e, It Take A Village To Raise A Child. No wonder the Democrats won't go near this on substance but liberal judges will do it for them.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

86 posted on 11/02/2005 10:32:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL

I really think we need to curb the purview of the courts. By a huge margin.


87 posted on 11/02/2005 10:32:32 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: SmithL

So liberals think government should stay out of our bedroom only if we're adults.


88 posted on 11/02/2005 10:33:04 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: sitetest

SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE!

"We pay our own piper, and call our own tune. We homeschool."

[Unless there's something I don't know] At the same time, you pay for public schools. That is wrong. Not all parents think that they can juggle home schooling with their tax burden. You are paying for a piper you don't even listen to.

SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE!
SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE!
SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE ... SCHOOL CHOICE!


89 posted on 11/03/2005 5:20:56 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Dear Arthur Wildfire! March,

That's true. I don't have a problem with creating choice in the area currently occupied by the public school monopoly. However, at the current time, if you want to send your kids to public school, you'll have to accept the rules that the education establishment imposes on you.

I'm describing, not prescribing.


sitetest


90 posted on 11/03/2005 5:39:45 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: andie74; emibeth

And this is why I'd really prefer to homeschool. Now to find a way to make it happen.


91 posted on 11/03/2005 5:43:17 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Lancey Howard

LOL, Massachusetts is even worse, if that's possible. In Massachusetts they teach "fisting" in the elementary schools. The teachers and their union have a real fun time in Massachusetts.

I guess with some of the homosexual cases I can maybe see that. I don't know. I can't imagine anything like that here though, certainly not in my school, but definitely NEVER in my class. They might teach fisting at the local boxing club though.


92 posted on 11/03/2005 5:50:00 AM PST by moog
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To: DTogo

I say let the PARENT DECIDE. And I don't think much of someone who wants to cram stuff down a kid's throat when the child's parent disagrees. Let the parent be the boss. School choice clears up most of this. The public school system is a cesspool, and everyone knows it. It's a disaster in EVERY respect.


93 posted on 11/03/2005 5:51:38 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: The Old Hoosier

"Men in Black" ? Sounds good to me. The 9th Circuis deserves it.


94 posted on 11/03/2005 5:53:14 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: mlc9852

In high school, we had a few about drinking and drugs. They were no big deal. Sometimes I put down funny answers, sometimes I didn't. I didn't worry too much about it since I never touched the stuff anyways.


95 posted on 11/03/2005 6:01:30 AM PST by moog
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To: Calpernia

The case is Fields v. Palmdale School District, 03-56499.

Thanks. Stupid survey, stupid judge, stupid research method, stupid research period.


96 posted on 11/03/2005 6:03:29 AM PST by moog
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To: moog

bumping that!


97 posted on 11/03/2005 6:05:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SmithL; 2Jedismom; homeschool mama; grellis

Reason #4,204,003,589 why we homeschool.

Dan


98 posted on 11/03/2005 6:05:55 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: newzjunkey

understanding that public schools must serve all the community's students, including those struggling with homosexuality, but this survey was undeniably far,

I don't believe that students can be "struggling with homosexuality." Yes, some may exhibit those tendencies, but those decisions should be made as an ADULT.


99 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:17 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
It doesn't belong in an elementary school.

It doesn't belong in ANY school.

100 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:55 AM PST by Hildy
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