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Director finds humanity in suicide bombers (Big Barf Alert)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Nov. 02, 2005 | Bruce Newman

Posted on 11/02/2005 8:39:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

Though he is Palestinian by birth and by political disposition, when director Hany Abu-Assad began thinking about suicide bombers in the occupied territories of the West Bank, he imagined them as heartless monsters. "Like anybody else," he says, "I thought they had been brainwashed."

In the film "Paradise Now," the final hours of a pair of auto mechanics who have been recruited as bombers are recounted, and the last thing the young men appear to be is unthinking. Abu-Assad used the interrogation transcripts of actual bombers who had failed to strike their targets when he was writing the script for the movie, which opens Friday in San Francisco and Nov. 11 in the South Bay, following its North American premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival.

"When you do research, you discover two things," he says. "You are shocked that there is enormous human depth in these kinds of people. They may make the wrong decision, but there is humanity in their thoughts. And secondly, you are in shock that you were so ignorant. It is obvious that they are human beings! How could I think that they weren't human beings, that they were monsters?"

Abu-Assad says humanizing the bombers in "Paradise Now" is "not the goal of the film, it is the starting point." It is sure to be a controversial position, especially in places where terrorists are not an abstract threat but the bringers of real pain and death. That includes Israel, whose people Abu-Assad says he respects, but whose subjugation of the Palestinian people he deplores. He believes that it is the occupation that has led to the bombings, not the other way around.

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TOPICS: Israel; War on Terror
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Nauseatingly sick.
1 posted on 11/02/2005 8:39:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for posting, I think. Thanks for Big Barf Alert also.


2 posted on 11/02/2005 8:42:02 PM PST by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I guarantee that "Mr. Enlightened Director" would not be so sycophantic if it was HIS wife/wives and children turned into so much human hamburger...


3 posted on 11/02/2005 8:43:23 PM PST by kromike
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
They may be human beings technically. But some people foolishly think that just because someone qualifies as a homosapien. That they can't qualify to behave like monsters.
4 posted on 11/02/2005 8:46:40 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: kromike

All that it would take is for some person with "humanity in their thoughts" to denounce him on some Islamist web site as an American or Israeli collaborator, and then he would have a first-hand opportunity to rethink whether or not it is obvious that they are monsters.


5 posted on 11/02/2005 8:48:21 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When you do research, you discover two things," he says. "You are shocked that there is enormous human depth in these kinds of people. They may make the wrong decision, but there is humanity in their thoughts. And secondly, you are in shock that you were so ignorant. It is obvious that they are human beings! How could I think that they weren't human beings, that they were monsters?"

Obviously, his "research" didn't including helping to pick up the body parts and comfort the grieving families of his subject's victims. Give it ten years, and we'll see the faces of suicide bombers on tee shirts and posters, much like we do with Che Guevera now.


6 posted on 11/02/2005 8:58:13 PM PST by rbg81
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How could I think that they weren't human beings, that they were monsters?"

Right, the NAZI's were sweethearts too. rollseyes
7 posted on 11/02/2005 9:02:23 PM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

First, let's call them what they are, murderers. The fact that they die in the process is the only good thing to come out of it. I don't really care what motivates them. The instant they strap on a bomb and set out to kill just anyone who happens to be near them, they have lost all rights to sympathy, understanding, or heaven.


8 posted on 11/02/2005 9:06:24 PM PST by Casloy
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To: kb2614

As in "When you got to know the real Heinrich Himmler, you saw what a harmless, loveable fuzzball he really was."

I question the humanity of the author, who is obviously as insane as his subjects.


9 posted on 11/02/2005 9:27:08 PM PST by omniscient
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
He believes that it is the occupation that has led to the bombings, not the other way around.

Obviously a closet islamofascist. What about the bombings in Kashmir, Bali, France, Spain...ad naseum. Were they the result of west bank "occupation" by israel also? I don't think so. Islam has a fourteen hundred year track record of death worship. If there are no infidels to kill, they kill one another. Granting a homeland to the palestinians will solve nothing. It will only provide a staging area for further atrocities.

10 posted on 11/02/2005 9:31:12 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Casloy
The instant they strap on a bomb and set out to kill just anyone who happens to be near them, they have lost all rights to sympathy, understanding, or heaven.

Once they strap on the explosive, it's pretty much too late. The civilized world must adopt a strategy for eliminating the threat. Do we turn the other cheek OR do we eliminate their leaders and outlaw the further practice of islam?

11 posted on 11/02/2005 9:37:57 PM PST by kimosabe31
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ON THE NET...

MEMRI.org - Search Term: "Suicide (Martyrdom) Operations"

YAHOO! News - Photo Gallery: "Suicide Bomber" (NOTE: Click on any of the numerous thumbnail photos to get THE BIG PICTURE.)

GOOGLE - Search Term: "HOMICIDE BOMBERS"

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US: "MR. SHAEED HAS A BAD DAY AT THE OFFICE" (November 1, 2005)

A discussion on FreeRepublic.com regarding The Jewish Journal article by Marc Ballon: "WHAT MAKES BOMBERS TICK IN 'PARADISE'?" (October 28, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AFP): "RESEARCHERS PROBE MOTIVES OF SUICIDE BOMBERS" (October 4, 2005)

CORRIERE.IT/english: Turin - "TURIN IMAM DEPORTED -- "HE'S DANGEROUS" Accused of praising Bin Laden. Como-based Tunisian activist also expelled." (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The ten children taking part in the ring-o'-roses protest beneath the market clock in Porta Palazzo were all wearing suicide bomber belts. The year was 1997, and that was the first time Bouriqi Bouchta, whose idea it was, attracted Italy’s attention.") (September 7, 2005)
MEMRITV.org/Transcript - Video Clip No. 838 - 8/31/2005: " 8/31/2005 Clip No. 838: "Sheik of Al-Azhar Muhammad Tantawi Explains on Al-Hurra TV When a Suicide Bomber Becomes a Martyr and When He Is Not" (TRANSCRIPT SNIPPET: "Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheik of Al-Azhar Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, which aired on Al-Hurra TV on August 31, 2005")
FrontPageMagazine.com: "SYMPOSIUM: THROUGH THE EYES OF A SUICIDE BOMBER" by Jamie Glazov (August 12, 2005)

MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 909: "BAHRAINI AUTHOR AND JOURNALIST: THE PROPONENTS OF THE SUICIDE IDEOLOGY HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In an article that appeared in the Saudi daily Al-Yawm, titled "The Globalization of Islamic Suicide" author and journalist Sawsan Al-Sha'er wrote that the extremist Islamist groups are taking advantage of global communications to recruit suicide bombers, and predicted the spread of the suicide bomber phenomenon to Britain as well.") (May 17, 2005)
JIHAD WATCH.org (DAWN): "MAJORITY OF SUICIDE BOMBERS ARE EDUCATED" (January 13, 2005)

FOX NEWS.com: "TICKET TO HELL" by David Asman (December 9, 2004)

MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE Special Report - No.32: "MEMRI TV Project Special Report: Arab and Iranian TV Clips in Support of Suicide Bombing" (September 1, 2004)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "RATIONAL, EDUCATED AND PROSPEROUS: JUST YOUR AVERAGE SUICIDE BOMBER" (May 15, 2004)

SAAG.org - SOUTH ASIA ANALYSIS GROUP: "SUICIDE & SUICIDAL TERRORISM" by B. Raman (March 12, 2004)

JIHAD WATCH.org (HAARETZ): "10 SUICIDE BOMBINGS FOILED OVER PASSOVER HOLIDAY" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "One of two Tanzim activists caught at the end of March told interrogators the group that sent them had planned a series of other attacks, including one with a device to which blood infected with AIDS would be attached.") (April 13, 2004)
FrontPageMagazine.com: "AFFLUENT GENOCIDE" by Robert Spencer (October 14, 2003)

NEW SCIENTIST.com: "SUICIDE BOMBERS MAY SPREAD DISEASE" (July 24, 2002)

12 posted on 11/02/2005 9:54:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

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He believes that it is the occupation that has led to the bombings, not the other way around.
<<

Note to subhuman muslims: DO NOT attack Israel from three sides without warning and you will not get your goat-f*cking asses handed to you and your territory "occupied."

And now, back to our regular programming.


13 posted on 11/02/2005 9:58:22 PM PST by noblejones (I'll get a tagline later.)
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ON THE NET...

FrontPageMagazine.com: "RUSSIA'S 'BLACK WIDOWS'" by Stephen Brown (July 25, 2003)

GOOGLE Search Term: "CHECHEN BLACK WIDOWS"

GOOGLE Search Term: "BLACK WIDOWS"

MEMRI.org - Search Term: "Suicide (Martyrdom) Operations"

MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 984: "An Al-Qaeda Love Story: From Morocco to Bosnia to Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, Via New Jersey" (September 9, 2005)

MEMRITV.org/Transcript - Video Clip No. 847: "PA Ambassador to the UAE, Salim Abu Sultan on the Jihad of Palestinian Mothers" (August 29, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (SITE Institute): "THE WOMEN'S ROLE IN JIHAD AGAINST THE ENEMY" (June 29, 2005)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "THE AGE OF THE SHE-BOMBER" by Micah Halpern (June 24, 2005)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - WebLog: "THE MOMENT OF REALIZATION" (June 24, 2005)

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JIHAD WATCH.org (IRISH INDEPENDENT): "ISRAEL: SUICIDE BOMBER CAUGHT WITH EXPLOSIVES IN HER UNDERWEAR" (June 23, 2005) (Read More...)

News.BBC.co.uk: "PALESTINIAN 'TARGETED HOSPITAL'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In an interview shown on Israeli television, Ms Bis said her "dream was to be a martyr". She said she was recruited by the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - an off-shoot of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction.") (June 21, 2005) (Read More...)
JIHAD WATCH.org (BBC): "FAMILY TURMOIL OVER 'SUICIDE BOMB' WOMEN" (June 12, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (BBC): "'FEMALE BOMBERS' HELD IN PAKISTAN" (June 11, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (NEW YORK POST): "SHEIKHS DEBATE WHETHER KILLING MUSLIM NON-COMBATANTS IS PERMISSIBLE" (June 11, 2005)

MEMRITV.org - Clip No.700: "THE DEATH GAMES OF GAZA CHILDREN" (June 1, 2005)

"littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15926_Palestinian_Child_Abuse&only" (May 21, 2005)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com: "PHOTO OF THE DAY" (May 13, 2005)

MEMRITV.org - Clip No.657: "Khatami's Advisor Prticipates in the Commemortaion of Palestinian Female Suicide Bombers" (04/16/2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (YNET): "PALESTINIAN GIRL HIDES GUN IN UNDIES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The soldiers in the Balata refugee camp, a terrorist hotbed, found the gunman inside his house and ordered him to surrender his weapon. He refused, saying he didn't have it. After questioning, they found the man's sister had hidden it her underwear. Troops then arrested the Hamas terrorist. They also found a gun holster and bullets inside the building.") (April 16, 2005) (Read More...)
"littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/pal-child-abuse-80.jpg"

JIHAD WATCH.org: "GIRL CALLED WOULD-BE BOMBER WAS DRAWN TO ISLAM" (April 9, 2005)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "PAPER: TWO N.Y. GIRLS HELD OVER TERROR" (April 7, 2005)


LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS.com: "3/13/2005: Incredibly Strange Graduation of the Iranian Female Police Cadets"

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "WOMEN'S MAGAZINE OFFERS TIPS TO TERRORISTS" by John Phillips (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "With its bizarre format including articles on "breathing gymnastics to conquer the passions," evidently essential knowledge for those tempted to have a final fling before strapping on an explosive-laden corset, Al Khansa could indicate that al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden has made a strategic choice in favor of "women's emancipation through martyrdom," according to the Gnosis report. "This is a turning point in the project planning of international terrorist networks, which until now, unlike in the Palestinian intifada or in Chechen nationalist extremism, were limited to the exclusive employment of men in operations," the SISDE analysts said.") (January 17, 2005)
News.BBC.co.uk: "'JIHAD' MAGAZINE FOR WOMEN ON WEB" by Sebastian Usher (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The magazine is called Al-Khansa, after a famous Arab woman poet in the early days of Islam, who wrote eulogies to male relatives who had died in battle. It appears to be the first "jihadist" publication aimed exclusively at women. The magazine says it is published by an organisation called "The Women's Media Bureau in the Arabian Peninsula". "The main objective seems to be to teach women married to radical Islamists how to support their husbands" And it claims that the former leader of al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, Abd-al-Aziz al-Muqrin - who was killed by Saudi security forces in June - as one of its founders. Al-Khansa also appears to be linked to the most well-known jihadist outlet on the internet, Sawt al-Jihad - or Voice of Jihad.") (Last Updated August 24, 2004) (Read More...)

JIHAD WATCH.org (THE SCOTSMAN): "IRAQ: JIHAD FOR KIDS" (March 6, 2005)

AIM.org: "JIHAD FOR KIDS" by Robert Spencer (June 11, 2002) (Read More...)

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Google Search: "images5.theimagehosting.com/2child.gif"

WorldNetDaily.com: "U.N. 'EXPLODES' AMERICAN KIDS Broadcasters Not Showing Graphic Ad Depicting Soccer Children Blown Apart" (March 6, 2005)

MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 819 - MEMRI TV Project: "MOTHERS OF HIZBULLAH MARTYRS: WE ARE VERY HAPPY AND WANT TO SACRIFICE MORE CHILDREN" (November 25, 2004)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US (JERUSALEM POST): "SHIN BET: CHILD TERROR ON THE RISE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "According to a Shin Bet report, the use of children in attacks is now common among all the Palestinian terror organizations. Since the outbreak of violence in September 2000, 309 minors were involved in planned and executed terror acts, with 126 involved since the beginning of 2004. Children as young as 11 years old are easily persuaded to join the conflict with assurances that they will gain respect in the next life. Terror organizations then distance the young recruits from their families and schools and subject them to religious and nationalistic indoctrination. The report also revealed that terror organizations hide bombs inside children's toys and satchels in order to evade detection.") (November 5, 2004)
MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE - Special Dispatch Series - No. 673: "UMM NIDAL: 'THE MOTHER OF THE SHAHIDS'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Umm Nidal Farhat [1] came to public attention for the first time when she was filmed helping her son Muhammad Farhat leave home to carry out the March 20, 2002 attack during which he was killed. About a year later her second son, Nidal, was killed by Israeli forces. In an interview published in both the Israeli-Arab Kul Al-Arab weekly and the London Arabic-language daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi, Umm Nidal reiterated that martyrdom (Shehada) is the most supreme act, and one of the basic principles of Islam. The following are excerpts from the interview:") (March 4, 2004)
JIHAD WATCH.org (NEW YORK TIMES via IHT): "A FRENCH MUSLIM FAMILY TAKES PATH TO MILITANCY" (August 2, 2004)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "PICKING JIHAD OVER CHILDREN" (January 27, 2004)

InHonor.net: (Online Videos)

PMW.or.il - TV Archives - Video Library: "CHILDREN ARE COMBATANTS IN PA IDEOLOGY"

JihadUnspun.com: "FEMALE MARTYR DRIVES CAR BOMB INTO US FORCES IN RAMADI" "By Muhammad Abu Nasr, Free Arab Voice and Omar Al-Faris, JUS" (Jan 03, 2005)

IMRA.org.il: "FEMALE SUICIDE BOMBERS FOR GOD" -Yoram Schweitzer Jafee Center for Strategic Studies (October 9, 2003)

GOOGLE Search Term: "JIHAD WOMEN"

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Fatwa Application - "ASK THE SCHOLAR" - Topic: "PALESTINIAN WOMEN CARRYING OUT MARTYR OPERATIONS" (May 22, 2003; October 5, 2003)

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Fatwa Application - "ASK THE SCHOLAR" - Topic: "MARTYR OPERATIONS CARRIED OUT BY THE PALESTINIANS" (May 22, 2003; July 13, 2003)

PALESTINIAN MEDIA WATCH PATV Archives - Video Library"

CDLR.net: CDLR Islamic Board>Literature & References>Jihad: "AN AMERICAN SHAHID" -Posted by Abdul on February 2003

BeautifulIslam.net: "SHAHEED (MARTYR)"

ALMINBAR.com: "(1478) - THE VIRTUES OF MARTYRDOM"

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Fatwa Applications - "ASK THE SCHOLAR" - Topic: "ATTACKING CIVILIANS IN MARTYR OPERATIONS" (October 26, 2003)

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Fatwa Application - Ask The Scholar - Title: "MARTYR OPERATIONS OR TERRORISM QUESTION" (October 6, 2003)


14 posted on 11/02/2005 10:05:32 PM PST by Cindy
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ON THE NET...

CNN.com (AP): Berlin, Germany - "'5,000 SUICIDE BOMBERS IN GERMANY' Guenther Beckstein told an online newspaper he believed up to 5,000 potential suicide attackers were in Germany." (September 12, 2005) (Read More...)
FreeRepublic.com - Keyword: "IRAN" (Read More...)

MEMRI.org: "IRAN" (Read More...)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US: "GREAT MOMENTS IN IRANIAN TECHNOLOGY TRANSFERS..." (October 30, 2005) (Read More...)

JIHAD WATCH.org (ASIA TIMES): "Ahmadinejad off the deep end: 'I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible and feasible'" (October 27, 2005) (Read More...)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com: Ramallah, West Bank - "IRAN LEADER PREDICTS ISRAEL'S DEMISE" by Joshua Mitnick (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday predicted a wave of Palestinian attacks that would erase Israel "from the face of the Islamic world," just hours before a suicide bomber killed five Israelis in a marketplace.") (October 27, 2005) (Read More...)
OnlineJihad.Blogspot.com: - Translating and Analyzing Jihadist Propaganda: "TEEN SUICIDE BOMBER - NATIONAL SYMBOL OF IRAN" (October 24, 2005) (Read More...)

MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 929: "Al-Arabiya TV Report: Iranian Volunteer Suicide Bomber Organization of 40,000 'Time Bombs; Recruited to Target Americans in Iraq and Israel" (July 6, 2005) (Read More...)
MEMRI TV.org - Transcript - Clip No. 736: "ON THE IRANIAN MOVEMENT OF 'MARTYRDOM SEEKERS'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "TRANSCRIPT SNIPPET: "The following are excerpts from a report about the movement of "martyrdom seekers" in Iran. Al-Arabiya TV aired this report on July 2, 2005.) (Read More...)
WorldNetDaily.com: "HAMAS 'CAPABLE OF U.S. ATTACKS' Terrorism experts warning nation potentially at risk from militants" by Aaron Klein (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "JERUSALEM - Hamas has cells inside the United States that are technically capable of attacking the country, terrorism experts and senior security officials told WorldNetDaily.") (October 16, 2005) (Read More...)
JNEWSWIRE.com: "HAMAS: CHRISTIAN ZIONISM IS OUR ENEMY" by Jerusalem Newswire Editiorial Staff (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Hamas terrorist organization has singled out Christian supporters of Israel, putting them on notice that it views their actions as "criminal," making them enemies of the Palestinian Arabs.") (August 22, 2005) (Read More...) (Note: This url may expire.)
MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 983: "COMMANDER OF HAMAS MILITARY WING WOMEN'S UNIT: 'Our Members Yearn for Martyrdom'" (September 9, 2005) (Read More...)
INTERNET-HAGANAH-US - Database: "HAMAS" (Read More...)

15 posted on 11/02/2005 10:08:26 PM PST by Cindy
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"When you do research, you discover two things," (Abu Assad) says. "You are shocked that there is enormous human depth in these (Islamic suicide bombers)--- And secondly, you are in shock that you were so ignorant. It is obvious that they are human beings!
How could I think that they weren't human beings, that they were monsters?"

You probably just forgot you were a Muslim for a brief period, Mr Abu. But I see you've come to your Islamic senses.

16 posted on 11/02/2005 10:11:07 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Heck, people are still idolizing Jesse James, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde, Billy the Kid. Some people just seem to find it irresistable to look for something to love about criminals.


17 posted on 11/02/2005 10:16:38 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: JohnathanRGalt; backhoe

ping


18 posted on 11/03/2005 2:34:09 AM PST by Cindy
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
This is the problem with the media elites. They have this preconceived notion that people that blow up innocent humans are somehow "different " than themselves.

Then when they actually figure out it could well be their next door neighbor ready to blow them up, they get all teary eyed about how "human" the killers are. It is actually a very normal reaction to the shock of facing reality. by humanizing the killers it gives "them" an excuse for doing nothing to stop this carnage. Thus they actually become PART of the terrorists MO.

19 posted on 11/03/2005 2:39:59 AM PST by marty60
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To: Cindy; All
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

20 posted on 11/03/2005 2:51:27 AM PST by backhoe
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