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To: dixie sass
All you have to do is walk into any nursing home and see that everyone is drugged to the gills

I know. I also know that an untold number of deaths in nursing homes and hospitals occur when a dosage of pain-killer is 'accidently' (wink,wink,nudge,nudge) given after a private talk a family member will have with a care-giver.

33 posted on 11/04/2005 12:31:25 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

There are always "Angels of Death" who think that they are helping the patient. That they have a calling to do so. They are murderers, plain and simple.

The Hospice people at the Hollings Center here in the Tri-County area are wonderful. I wish that we had stayed with them instead of going to the Summerville group. They had just formed and the people that I had to deal with were surly and wouldn't help.

One of the most important things that Hospice Givers do is give respite for the caregiver at home. That contributes just as much to the patients well being as good health care.


35 posted on 11/04/2005 12:47:49 PM PST by dixie sass
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To: Semper Paratus
there has been a huge drive in the last several years for pain relief...every hospital and I imagine nursing home is under the gun to adequately keep patients pain free, and its done thru extensive and riduclous time consming record keeping...

if the state regulators or Joint commission finds evidence anywhere in the chart where pain went untreated, its a problem, and even if its only the family members saying the patient is in "pain" and what you see is a person sleeping you still have to act in someway....

you can't win in this game....

we do have lots of "loving" family members who think that reality is like ER and that death is supposed to be pretty....

its not.....

we have those family members who DEMAND that we give more narcotic because its just so hard to sit there waiting for death ...what they mean is its too hard on THEM.....

then we get the divided families argueing over their parent in front of them......

what passes for love, I tell ya......

as far as "drugging" up patients....is not ethical nor legal from my understanding to chemically restrain anyone unless there is thorough documentation that there is a need for it and the family and doctor all are in agreement...especially if the patient poses a risk to himself or others....

you see, NH's aren't supposed to be using physical restraints anymore, so their options are very narrow.....people will sue no matter what happens.....

until the public and society understands that death is a natural and NECESSARY part of our world then we get these constant conflicts....

I wish people would stop bitching about nursing homes or hospitals or the like because the alternative is there for YOU to care for your loved one at YOUR house.....

we all know that the kind of devotion is just not there in 2005 in the good ol USA....we talk a big line but when it comes right down to it, most people will be ditching their parents in NH's no matter what.......sad...

107 posted on 11/07/2005 10:49:28 AM PST by cherry
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