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SENATORS VOTE 90-9 TO AID TERRORISTS
TownHall.com ^ | 11/02/2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/04/2005 6:37:40 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

The GOP-controlled Senate added an amendment to the $440-billion military spending bill that would extend to spies, terrorists, and Islamic jihadists the same rights U.S. citizens enjoy under the Constitution.

In other words, our military interrogators can no longer question suspected suicide bombers and murderers of women and children without the ACLU looking over their shoulder -- ready to haul some poor enlisted man into court just because he yelled at a terrorist or hurt a terrorist’s feelings.

If the Senate had done such a despicable thing during World War II, the American people would have stormed the Capitol, tarred and feathered all who voted for such treachery, and ridden them out of town on a rail.

This evil, suicidal bill – if implemented – would expose Americans to the greatest danger in the history of our nation: The planting of explosives on our subways. Suicide bombers killing American women and children. Airline hijackings. Assassinations.

Do you realize that not a single terrorist attack has occurred on American soil since 9/11 – despite the dark, dire predictions of the political know-it-alls.

You know why? Because our worldwide intelligence operation has discovered and exposed plot after plot to kill Americans, both abroad and at home.

You may be alive today because some interrogator wasn’t too fastidious about how he got his information from some proud, smirking jihadist.

Use the hyperlink below to send your 20 urgent Blast Fax messages to President Bush and EACH of the Members of the Senate Conference Committee. Tell them to have the political courage to put the lives of innocent Americans above the interests of third world terrorists, thugs and dictators and kill this McCain amendment in committee.

The McCain Amendment -- SA 1977 -- Says The Following...

“No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.” [emphasis added]

No cruel or inhuman treatment... that sounds reasonable... or does it?

But the phrase “degrading treatment” – which could have been invented by Amnesty International -- is so vague and full of holes you could drive a Hummer through it.

Solitary confinement, harsh language, ridicule, mild threats, good-cop-bad-cop -- the Senate wants to outlaw all of these standard questioning techniques and restrict interrogators to the etiquette of a ladies’ lawn party.

These terrorists are butchering women and children all over the globe -- as well as launching sneak attacks on our troops – and we’re supposed to walk on egg shells when we try to find out which Americans they intend to kill next?

Exactly what are our troops suppose to do when questioning these terrorist thugs in an attempt to save American lives?

"Pretty please Mr. terrorist... I beg you...could you please tell us the details of your NEXT attack on innocent Americans?"

That's about the size of it folks. After all, we will now have to be extra careful not to do ANYTHING THAT WOULD DEGRADE OR INSULT THESE KILLERS!

The U.S. Senate hasn’t gotten the message: We’re at war with fanatics who hate Americans.

These jihadists are willing to die for their faith, and we aren’t even willing to be ill-mannered to protect our freedom.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aidtoterrorists; gwot; hysteria; senate; terrorists
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1 posted on 11/04/2005 6:37:41 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

How do we get rid of the ACLU?


2 posted on 11/04/2005 6:39:36 AM PST by elephant
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To: FerdieMurphy

While I dislike the McCain ammendment, I don't think it was characterized well in this article.


3 posted on 11/04/2005 6:39:48 AM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Yeah, we should follow France as an example of how to deal with Muslims. They have been very successful. Oh, except for the riots.


4 posted on 11/04/2005 6:39:59 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: FerdieMurphy

Heck, having to provide one's SSN and submit to a background check just to buy a gun is degrading, and so is posing for a mug shot, with fingerprints, and keeping the authorities informed when you move, to get a CCW. It's like you're a sex offender or something.


5 posted on 11/04/2005 6:40:17 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Which drummer, exactly, does McStain march to? It certainly ain't the US Constitution.


6 posted on 11/04/2005 6:41:12 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: elephant
How do we get rid of the ACLU?


Michael Savage has suggested using R.I.C.O. along with the sedition act to dismantle them.


It actually sounded like a good idea to me.
7 posted on 11/04/2005 6:43:12 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: FerdieMurphy

Somethign is wrong here. The link takes to the main site, and when searching for the article there are no hits. Where is this article from? The source isn't panning out.


8 posted on 11/04/2005 6:43:55 AM PST by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Who are the nine Patriots?


9 posted on 11/04/2005 6:45:07 AM PST by wilco200
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To: elephant
How do we get rid of the ACLU?

Improper question. How to get rid of 90 Senators should be your real concern.

10 posted on 11/04/2005 6:45:20 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

The Senate took the high road.

We are not supposed to be inhumane to people.
We are not supposed to torture people.

We are supposed to be above that.

Otherwise, any claims that we do what we do because of "moral authority" are meaningless and hypocritical.


Flame away!!


11 posted on 11/04/2005 6:45:35 AM PST by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: elephant
How do we get rid of the ACLU?


Perhaps the situation will take care of itself...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515185/posts

 

12 posted on 11/04/2005 6:46:47 AM PST by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: elephant

Find a clone of Francisco Franco.


13 posted on 11/04/2005 6:49:56 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Dial One.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
What a load of crap.

Human rights are important. The USA is a beacon of freedom and democracy, not secret prisons and torture.

14 posted on 11/04/2005 6:51:18 AM PST by conserv13
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To: FerdieMurphy

What? Is this correct?

If so, our Republican Congressmen get more useless every month.


15 posted on 11/04/2005 6:51:26 AM PST by Peach (The Dems enabled Able Danger. 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: contemplator

This was an email sent to me from Town Hall. I assumed that it appeared on their website as well. I'll check.


16 posted on 11/04/2005 6:51:37 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Dial One.)
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To: conserv13
Of course. We should keep reciting your last two sentences.

It is a lot like whistling while we walk past the cemetery.

17 posted on 11/04/2005 6:53:40 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Dial One.)
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To: djf
The Senate took the high road. We are not supposed to be inhumane to people. We are not supposed to torture people. We are supposed to be above that. Otherwise, any claims that we do what we do because of "moral authority" are meaningless and hypocritical. Flame away!!

Our military should not be involved in torturing people. We have signed the Geneva Conventions. HOWEVER, my understanding is that the measure the Senate passed applies to ALL agencies of the Federal government, which is WRONG. Our government must have the ability at some level to determine who is a legitimate combatant in Geneva terms, and who is an illegal enemy combatant deserving whatever comes his way. It's better to have third parties put the squeeze on captured terrorists, but we must have the flexibility to get critical information.

18 posted on 11/04/2005 6:54:58 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: coloradan
McCain is a Vietnam vet, a former POW and a US Senator. Referring to him as 'McStain' is childish and ignorant.

He and the other 89 Senators are trying to bring some clarity as to how our troops should be acting over there.

Torture is illegal and immoral and the USA should not be engaging in it.

19 posted on 11/04/2005 6:55:17 AM PST by conserv13
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To: dagoofyfoot

"Michael Savage has suggested using R.I.C.O. along with the sedition act to dismantle them.

It actually sounded like a good idea to me."


Please enlighten me. Just how would you (or Michael Savage for that matter) propose to legally and successfully prosecute the ACLU under RICO?


20 posted on 11/04/2005 6:57:34 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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