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Intifada in France
Chronicles Magazine ^ | Friday, November 04, 2005 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 11/04/2005 6:26:58 PM PST by A. Pole

The northern industrial suburbs of Paris suffered the worst of eight consecutive nights of rioting on November 3-4. Disorder has now spread to dozens of provincial towns, including Dijon, the first city outside Ile-de-France (the metropolitan region) to be affected by unrest. Hundreds of cars, as well as schools, stores, and warehouses have been torched or ransacked. A disabled French woman, unable to escape from a bus set alight by the rioters in Sevran (Dept. Seine-Saint-Denis), was badly burned. Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy noted “a great coordination” among rioters, hinting that the unrest was far from spontaneous.

The rioters are mainly young, French-born North African males. Last week in the Parisian banlieu of Clichy-sous-Bois—a concrete and steel high-rise monstrosity that is now over 80 percent Muslim—they rose in anger when two teenagers were accidentally electrocuted while hiding from the police in a fenced-off area housing a high-voltage pylon. Shouting “Allahu akbar!” groups of youths armed with clubs and sticks went on a rampage forcing the regular police to retreat. When the riot police came in force to reclaim the area, the protests became focused on the demand that the French police get out of the “occupied territories.” The trouble would be ended, various Muslim “community leaders” claimed, if the French authorities accepted that there were de facto no-go areas within the country which should be self-administered. “All we demand is to be left alone,” said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local “emirs” engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

The demand is not new and it will be made with increasing frequency in the years to come. Many Muslims in France and elsewhere in Europe already consider themselves de facto autonomous, a community justifiably opposed to the broader society of infidels and centered on mosques and Islamic centers. The emergence of a huge diaspora of the faithful away from the heartland is seen by pious Muslims as an event archetypically linked to conquest. The demand for the predominantly Muslim areas to be granted communal self-rule will inevitably lead to the clamoring for the sharia law in a segregated Muslim France.

Assimilation is no longer a viable option in France, the country that used to pride itself on its ability to turn foreigners into Frenchmen. That was possible with the Italians, Spaniards, Poles and Russians becauyse they were culturally assimilable and because they came in tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands even (e.g., the non-French Pieds-Noirs), but not in the millions. The Muslims now account for ten percent of France’s population and for more than one-fifth of all newborns. They live in compact communities in which it is no longer possible to buy wine in a local store or to see Amelie in a cinema. Their leaders regard their faith and culture as superior to that of the host society. Those who have doubts wisely keep quiet.

Young Muslim men direct particular violence against Muslim women who try to follow French ways. Many French-born Arab girls in the ghettos resort to wearing hijab as the only protection against face-slashings and gang rapes. Not having one makes a girl fair game for both. (A knife slash across the cheek from the lip to the ear is common, and known as a “smile.”) Samira Bellil, a third-generation woman of Algerian origin, has written a book about the hell of the suburban ghettos. She was was gang raped by three people she knew, but could not say anything because her family would be dishonored. She recalls the case of a girl who was raped in a school: “Of course, everybody knew, but they’re so afraid of these young men that they prefer to close their eyes. That’s the price of peace in the ghettos.”

This reality is light years away from the desire of Gilles Kepel, President Jacques Chirac’s advisor on Islamic affairs, to create “an Andalusia” of multi-denominational tolerance in France. As French commentator Yves Charles Zarka, director of Cités, has warned, even that price cannot maintain the semblance of peace for long because the roots of “ideological Islamism” are deep and enduring among the young rioters. France is experiencing “a central phase of the more general and mutually conflicting encounter between the West and Islam, which only someone completely blind or of radical bad faith, or possibly of disconcerting naiveté, could fail to recognize.” Outside the ghettos the price of a wider societal “peace” is a complex web of lies and half-truths by which the elite class has sought to conceal the truth about what it has done to the French nation.

The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community within France, coupled with the cultural enfeeblement and demographic decline of the French nation. The mix is dangerous. Its result has been stated with haughty arrogance by Tariq Ramadan, professor of Islamic studies at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and a grandson of Hasan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Ramadan proposes through his teachings and writings that Muslims in the West should conduct themselves not as hyphenated citizens seeking to live by “common values” but as though they were already living in a Muslim-majority society and were exempt on that account from having to make concessions to the faith of others. Muslims in non-Muslim countries should feel themselves entitled to live on their own terms—while, under the terms of Western liberal tolerance, society as a whole should feel obliged to respect that choice.

That “liberal tolerance” and the accompanying “societal obligation,” is the true enemy. “No other race subscribes to these moral principles… because they are weapons of self-annihilation.” They need to be understood for what they are, and discarded, if France is to survive.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; france; french; immigration; islam; muslim; paris; parisriots; riots
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To: Fzob

Interesting bump


81 posted on 11/04/2005 7:28:05 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Popman

Now I'm going to have to turn around and start eating those French biscuits I've been avoiding for all these years (since DeGaulle - the gall of that guy was too much for me).


82 posted on 11/04/2005 7:28:37 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2

Croissants are very good along with coffee.


83 posted on 11/04/2005 7:31:05 PM PST by A. Pole (Rubicon: the border between Republic and Empire(www.unrv.com/fall-republic/crossing-the-rubicon.php))
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To: Peace will be here soon
This may be happening in France, but if it comes to the U.S., it will be met with a different attitude. I am confident of this.

If it comes to the US, many of us will be called upon to put our money where our mouth has been... and dust off the Second Amendment.

84 posted on 11/04/2005 7:31:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Paladin2
I am a bagel man myself, but this is too good to pass up because I eat breakfast with a Mooslimb co-worker almost every day

It will be my little secret.

I wonder if he will ever know why I am smiling from ear to ear

85 posted on 11/04/2005 7:33:47 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Paladin2
I'll bet his descendants emigrated west.

And they probably rode horses in the US Cavalry. Killing some of the 'indigenous' Asiatic Mongol scalping savages. The more things change, the more they stay the same. When the West and the East were not fighting amongst ourselves, we were fighting Eurasian wars. Asiatic Hordes verses the West. Eurasian warfare has been going on for 1,000's of years. China is getting ready to join the conflict. The only ray of hope comes from the Shining City on the Hill called America. Where the East meets the West. Where perhaps the two ancient conflicting cultures can hopefully eventually live together in peace.

86 posted on 11/04/2005 7:39:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Yes, it points out typical weakness on the part of the French government, but what about innocent people?

What about the innocents? The French people and their government are responsible. NOT America. Europe will have at least one more large "growing pain". The only thing that I agree with the Lefties on is bringing our soldiers home. From Europe first, then Japan, and then other far-east areas. When the middle east has remained economically viable for 50+ years, we can talk about ending that occupation.

87 posted on 11/04/2005 7:41:06 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: A. Pole

If they claim to be "autonomous" regions - they ought not get welfare or voting privileges.


88 posted on 11/04/2005 7:44:29 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: luvbach1
When France goes muslim will that be a wake-up call?

Apparently parts of France are already under control of the muslim hordes. That explains why the insurgency uprising has been allowed to go on for so many days.

89 posted on 11/04/2005 7:44:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: domenad; Paladin2; DannyTN

Madam, we must have pistols! We must all have pistols forthwith! We must all think, and we must all have pistols, and think each and every one of us to the very best of his ability...
90 posted on 11/04/2005 7:45:04 PM PST by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: Popman
Interesting. I wonder how many Frenchman know this historical tid-bit. I'd vote maybe a few dozen, but they all liberal elitist and consider it barbaric.

I, on the other hand, have just had the enjoyment of my croissants increased ten fold. Thanks.

91 posted on 11/04/2005 7:46:08 PM PST by lizma
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To: domenad
"I think it's time I finally went and bought a pistol."

Might want to get an SKS too, and several hundred rounds of 7.62 x 39mm. I recommend the Sellier and Bellot hollow point (I don't think we'll care about the Geneva convention), good quality and cheap. And practice, a lot of the vermin are poor shots, they probably fire more rounds into the air than at a target range.
92 posted on 11/04/2005 7:49:54 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Popman
Wow. And the first bagel was supposedly baked by a Vienna baker to honor the King of Poland who rode his horse into battle against the Muslim Turks and saved Vienna. The bagel was to symbolize the circular foot braces the King of Poland stood on while smashing the Muslims. Wow. Our ancestors perhaps were wiser then we could have ever imagined. They left us clues to our reason for being here today. The keys to freedom apparently can be found in the days first meal.
93 posted on 11/04/2005 7:52:42 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: A. Pole
"Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy noted “a great coordination” among rioters, hinting that the unrest was far from spontaneous."

Al Sharpton: "Boy Jesse, that spontaneous riot last night was something?"

Jesse Jackson" "Shhh, the spontaneous riot isn't until tomorrow night!"
94 posted on 11/04/2005 7:53:43 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Popman

How long before Muslims riot over crescents and demand they be banned forever!


95 posted on 11/04/2005 7:55:25 PM PST by hershey
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To: Richard Axtell
After reading several articles and especially some of the muzzies quotes that include things like 'occupied territories' I decided to update my tagline. Seeing that the palis invented a name for themselves out of a historical Roman provincial name, I've applied the same concept.

Nam Vet

96 posted on 11/04/2005 7:56:33 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Gaulistinians are rioting to reclaim the ancient 'holy ground' of Paris.)
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To: Popman

The croissant also makes a good sandwich bread, using ham of course!


97 posted on 11/04/2005 7:58:32 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: fallujah-nuker
That is good advice. That person should also acquire a good 12-gauge pump. No need to go crazy with the high end autoloaders (Benelli, Franchi, et al, even though they are really nice). There are many robust models out there for really good prices.
98 posted on 11/04/2005 8:00:29 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Hmmmm....the laser sight my husband wants for Christmas is sounding more practical all the time!


99 posted on 11/04/2005 8:00:55 PM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: A. Pole

FRANCE: HTTP://WWW.CIA.GOV

Roman Catholic 83%-88%, Protestant 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 5%-10%, unaffiliated 4%


100 posted on 11/04/2005 8:01:40 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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