[ancient_geezer]

Here's one for you!

[ancient_geezer]

A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:

• search: "national sales tax" OR "national retail sales tax" OR "fairtax"

[TheOracleAtLilac]

That's it - distract the sheeple w/ talk of tax reform.

What B.S. in light of uncontrolled/record breaking spending.

[Willie Green]

...the movement for consumption-based taxation has been hijacked by a group of extremists whose principal interest is abolishing the Internal Revenue Service.²¹ They believe that if virtually all federal taxes are abolished and replaced with a retail sales tax like those in the states, then the states can simply collect the federal government's revenue for it, thereby allowing for abolition of the IRS...

²¹ The Church of Scientology originated this legislation as part of a campaign against the IRS because it refused for many years to allow gifts to the church to be deducted as legitimate charitable contributions, on the grounds that it was not a true church. The IRS eventually relented. See Davis (1997) and Starobin (1995) for discussions of the Church of Scientology's role in the sales tax campaign.

Davis, Bob. 1997. "CATS Out of the Bag." World, 12:9 (May 31/June 7).
Starobin, Paul. 1995. "No Returns." National Journal (March 18): 666-671.

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[operation clinton cleanup]

As long as we live with an income based system individuals and businesses will always try to find ways to limit their incomes to hide from the overzealous tax code.

I agree in principle, but what is to stop people from "hiding" consumption... aka, a new black market?

[Protagoras]

Although one of the proposals is being touted as a Use or Consumption Based Tax, flat tax that is based on use, it is really not, it is truly a federal sales tax being disguised.

There, I fixed it.

[TMSuchman]

It is too bad that real tax reform will NEVER happen! There are way too many laywers it the middle of this for our own sake. We may need another revolt, to fix things back to the way they should be!

[hosepipe]

[ why is it so difficult to think that this couldn't be expanded to all "used or consumed" items and completely do away with the income based system. ]

Thats an easy one Geez....
Not all the players are corrupt BUT ALL the umpires are..
ANY decisions by THEM will be jaded ultimately FOR the wrong TEAMs benefit..
Really Geez do you used face paint when you go to these games.?..
and a silly hat.?.