Posted on 11/06/2005 8:37:39 AM PST by rcocean
The ADL, considered the largest Jewish organization in America, has in the past spearheaded campaigns against religious preachers and Christian elements deemed unusually extreme. But this is the first all-out media assault by an ADL head on the U.S. Christian establishment.
He noted that churches and organizations of this sort have always been active in America, but they had never before been so aggressive and determined. "They intend to Christianize all aspects of American life, from the halls of government to the libraries, to the movies, to recording studios, to the playing fields and locker rooms of professional, collegiate and amateur sports; from the military to SpongeBob SquarePants," Foxman charged. "No effort is made to hide their goals or their ambitions, and their vision of America is far different from ours."
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretzdaily.com ...
More fundraising from a guy who makes $400K+ a year for not doing a whole hell of a lot....
Even the ADL should have the common sense to understand that morality is an important aspect of Christian teachings. I would think he would understand the need for that, seeing what immorality had done to his people in centuries past.
He's stupid. He's a puppet of the atheist left.
When brains were given out he must have thought they were giving out trains. He has no brains.
Mr. Foxman has one great deal less to be worried about from Christians than certain Islamic types who seem rather focused on his personal, national and theological extinction. Know your enemy.
Sorry, not so "interesting".
JDL = Professional victim-mentality enablers
Foxman is a secular idiot, not even aware that ALL of the heroes in The Passion were Jewish.
Another lie by the ADL.
The ACLU and ADL Foxman make a nice team.
All it takes is money, media power, a few legislators who can use the ca$h and a hatred of .... something .... anything....to get the ball rolling.
Sorry Abe, you're centuries too late.
America was 'Christianized' a very long time ago.
That's why she's always been so great.
As has every nation whose God was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Too bad for you that you've willfully blocked that out of your socialist memory...
As a Jew, I am embarrassed by this statement. There is real antisemitism actually exists and should be identified and opposed. But the charge of "Christianizing" America, even if it exists to some degree, is not a threat to Jews. I run into people who try to convert me all the time. Not only do they fail, I always feel a renewed strength of my personal faith when they fail. The threat to Jews is not an increase of religiosity, it is the increase of secularism. The more our government respects the rights of religious people, the more rights Jews will have. A rising tide lifts all boats.
I'd like to warn everyone here of the dangerous efforts to Jewize America. They want to control the media, the government and the schools. Oops, that kinda sounded like hate speech, didn't it?.
You bet your ass it did. It wasn't funny either.
Aren't Jews considered Christian?
In Foxman's defense, he did say, a few years ago, that it isn't wise to play the anti-semitism card any time something/someone Jewish is critiqued/analyzed/discussed/etc. I was a bit surprised at the time he said it.
You would think the Jews would be more worried about the "Islamitization of America" that seems to be the REAL underlying problem!
Yeah, Christians are the problem. Keep focused on that Mr. Foxman while the Saudis build another mosque next door for preaching hate.
As a Jew I too am embarassed and incenced by Mr Foxman's statements. I have contacted my local ADL office to register my displeasure and let them know that, as a result of their left-leaning political positioning, they shouldn't bother to contact me this year requesting a donation.
My reasons are exactly the same as they were last year. Until they confine themselves to their stated goals, rather than Democratic political posturing, as far as this Jew is concerned, they do not exist.
Maybe some people consider it that way, but I don't know any who do.
Looks like he doesn't follow his own advice.
He was at the forefront of attacking Mel Gibson over his movier.
The ADL should get a new leader, he's a moran.
Aren't Jews considered Christian?
Don't understand. Could you explain.
There is nothing Jewish about the Anti-Defamation League. Where were they when Jesse Jackson called New York City as "Hymietown" and Jews "Hymies"?
Perhaps they were too busy donating to his campaign to condemn him...
It looks like you mangled that one, too.
How should it go?
While in the abstract i strongly agree with you, please allow me a bit of amusement in that i will parse the above statement:
And just who are "the Christians"? What makes one a "Christian"? Are they born "Christian", or proselitised? Do they hold to a specific dogma, or merely a tradition and culture?
My point is that Mr. Foxman has to stick with broad generalities, because he gets stuffed by facts when he attempts to name groups or individuals who are not part of the "lunatic fringe" that exists among any group (such as perhaps...the ADL?). i wonder if Mr. Foxman considers Louis Farrakan (spell?) a Christian?
Doesn't Foxman realize that it was his buddies in the ACLU who started this battle? The Christians have finally got pi$$ed off over the leftist Jewish attacks on their religious symbols.
"Aren't Jews considered Christian?"
No, it's the other way around. Jesus Christ was born a Jew, but His teachings reached all people.
Very well said. Thank you.
I read it as a serious use of sarcasm to state a point.
I should let him speak for himself, perhaps, but we need not knee-jerk react when the antagonist left would prefer us to do so.
"The more our government respects the rights of religious people, the more rights Jews will have. A rising tide lifts all boats."
Very well-said, by the way. Thanks. Don't hold your breath, however, because family and faith are the two greatest enemies of the state.
i;ve heard opf a plot to even import PILGRIMS!!!!!
"Maybe some people consider it that way [that Jews are Christians], but I don't know any who do."
I don't either. Jesus was born a Jew, so it could be said all Christians are really Jewish, although few say that, either.
Yet another Moral Absolutes Ping.
Yes, the effort to remove God and the Judeo-Christian heritage of this country which is the very foundation of freedom. Just in time for the "Holiday" [now which holiday is that, exactly?] Season.
Note this from Thomas Jefferson:
"Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the words "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion"; the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."
(About the Constitution of the State of Virginia...an alert freeper posted a link to the whole thing. Anyway, proof that Jefferson and other founders were in favor of religious tolerance, not repression of any religious expression.)
Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.
Note: Most religious (as opposed to merely ethnic/secular) Jews have no problem with Christmas decorations, celebrations and so on. In fact, many appreciate the religious freedom that enables fellow believers in God to be able to express and celebrate religious holidays.
It's usually called the Religious Right, although they are desperately trying to retitle them "Christian Fundamentalists" in an effort to link their imaginary boogeyman group to Islamic Radicals.
Like the Militia Movement, it's a both a straw man and a boogeyman. There have been chicken littles moaning about hostile takeovers from militias and conspiracies to impose theocracies for as long as I've been alive.
I had a long night with a sick Bengal. She's fine now.
Thanks ... .
Is that like in tiger?
Belief in Christ.
I've always known Foxman was a liberal blowhard, but now I begin to suspect the man is literally mentally ill.
Foxman represents the ADL, not the JDL, which was (until the death of Rabbi Kahana') a Torah organization and is still condemned by liberal Jewish organizations even though it is now purely secular.
RWE, member since 11/02/05.
"I'd like to warn everyone here of the dangerous efforts to Jewize America. They want to control the media, the government and the schools. Oops, that kinda sounded like hate speech, didn't it?"
I'd like to warn everyone here of the dangerous efforts to athienize America. As athiesm is now a religion now recognized by the US Supreme Court, this is a ligitimate statement.
This is both hate speech, and, a fact.
Soor. Atheism.
I am so glad I don't spell that right from time to time.
Well stated. Christians are the strongest and sometimes, the only supporters of Israel these days. Many of us celebrate our Jewish friends and our common heritage.
It is typical of Foxman and the left to see Christians hiding behind every building in their imaginary world. Jews and Christians are the capstone of faith and light in this country.
If he were concerned about efforts to islamize these United States, I might be able to take him seriously.
As is, he's just another nutjob; belongs in the same looney-bin as jesse jackasson and fat albert.
Foxman is an embarassment to Jews. Although carefully avoiding the pitfalls of having a state religion, America was founded by Christians, with Christian ethics, and, although tolerant of most other religions, has been unapologetically Christian ever since, at least culturally. The actuality is that for the last 30 or 40 years it is Christianity that has been under attack in America, not the reverse as Foxman asserts.
I am usually pretty sensitive to what I perceive as anti Semitism, perhaps sometimes seeing it where it may not be truly intended. But although I tend not to be a particular admirer of much of what is known as the "Religious Right," it's worth noting that there is also, for whatever reason, a good bit of anti Christianity in today's America.
No reason for you feel embarassed as it's not a Jewish standpoint, but a leftist one.
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