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Go home in the name of Allah, order imams with megaphones
Times OnLine ^ | November 8, 2005 | Charles Bremer

Posted on 11/07/2005 5:32:04 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn

There is unease as the authorities encourage Muslim activists with megaphones to calm tensions

BEARDED Muslim activists have been wading into the night-time mayhem of the housing estates, megaphone in hand, and addressing the rioters “in the name of Allah”.

Far from inciting the violence, they have been urging the rioting teenagers to stop destroying property and go home. For the Government, the Muslim mediators have been playing a useful role calming youngsters from the mainly Arab estates who respect their authority far more than that of the police and local officials.

However, the Muslim mentors, who style themselves “big brothers”, are also causing unease in France because they symbolise what many see as a root of the unrest: the isolation of the ethnic Arab and black minorities into ghettos where Muslim law and outlook prevails. There is also a widespread belief — denied by the authorities — that the unrest is being fostered by the Islamists.

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Some on Left and Right were angered when police withdrew one evening last week from Clichy-sous-Bois, where the rioting started, in order to let Muslims keep the peace. “The supposed mediation of big brothers crying out Allahu Akbar (God is Greatest) is one sign among many of the capitulation of the legitimate authorities,” said Bruno Gollnisch, a senior figure in Jean-Marie Le Pen’s National Front party.

Non-Muslim mediators who are active on the estates also disapprove of the presence of the Islamic brothers as peace-keepers. Magid Tabouri, 29, who leads a team of municipal, secular, big brothers at Bondy, in the troubled Seine-Saint-Denis département, said: “It is a scandal that they have asked imams to calm down the kids. You can’t apply a religious response to a social revolt.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: france; frencharerevolting; frenchmuslims; insurgency; intifada; jihad; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; terrorists; uprising; wot
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The Muslim mediators are exploiting the unrest to enhance their authority among the alienated youths who go out to smash at night, say the police. “They are playing a clever game,” said one police officer. “They are preaching peace but profiting out of the mess to promote their ideology.”

French are foolish to turn to the radical Islamists to help them out of their troubles.

1 posted on 11/07/2005 5:32:05 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
The French are playing right in to the muzzies hands.

The Tablighi Jamaat have done their jobs well.

2 posted on 11/07/2005 5:35:48 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Eternity? Smoking or nonsmoking?)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Burkas are so in...


3 posted on 11/07/2005 5:37:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Call me harsh but I think any " Muslim activists with megaphones" make for clear and easy targets.


4 posted on 11/07/2005 5:37:09 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

What a charade... the whole point of this is to put the power over those areas into Islamic hands - if the imams show they can do it and the state cannot, then "les banlieux" become part of Dar-al-Islam forever.


5 posted on 11/07/2005 5:37:48 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Talk about your short term solutions. Sometimes I really question the value of democracy when it leads to political decisions like this. Next it will be Hamas-like organizations setting up a parallel government.


7 posted on 11/07/2005 5:39:19 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: thoughtomator

You are so right. The Frenchies will never have control over these areas again. Well...until they call us to bail 'em out...again!


9 posted on 11/07/2005 5:41:57 PM PST by Sociopathocracy (The Left and Islamo-fascism, the twin cancers of human history.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I think the riots thus far have been strategically planned to only include arson and mayhem, for they know that as soon as they start shooting and killing in earnest, the gloves will come off and the French military will have to respond.

The intifada knows all too well the mindset of the French; that they will do nothing meaningful as long as the riots can be written off to the protests of 'youths'. I'd wager a month's salary there are thousands of AK's and RPG's in those cites, probably explosives too, but it's not time...yet...to bring them out. They are playing a very good game of French chess. Unfortunately, the French (the real French) are not in the game to win, they are only in the game to check. I have to admit that the intifada is in control of the board at this time.

10 posted on 11/07/2005 5:45:53 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit

Yep. If all this rioting were really so un-Islamic, where were these imams during the first 11 days of this? Cooling their heels waiting to step in, and thus claim authority as the true rulers and representatives of the immigrant population.


11 posted on 11/07/2005 5:46:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: Sociopathocracy
The Frenchies will never have control over these areas again.

"Land for Peace" anyone?

12 posted on 11/07/2005 5:46:44 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Sociopathocracy

I hope "W" has the phone off the hook. :-)


13 posted on 11/07/2005 5:47:52 PM PST by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: JediForce

What? I hear you knocking...but you can't come in...


14 posted on 11/07/2005 5:50:12 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Seems the French have been able to completely knock out the most basic survival instincts of fight or flight out of their heads.


15 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:05 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Alright. Write, fax, call, or email your representatives and pitch a pig.)
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To: JediForce

LOL!


16 posted on 11/07/2005 6:06:43 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: All
ON THE NET...

FOX NEWS.com (AP): Paris - "FIRST FATALITY REPORTED IN FRENCH RIOTS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The victim was identified as Jean-Jacques Le Chenadec, a retired auto industry worker who died after being beaten by an attacker. He was trying to extinguish a trash can fire Friday at his housing project in the northeastern suburb of Stains when an attacker caught him by surprise and beat him into a coma, police said.") (October 7, 2005)
JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): Paris - "RIOTING SPREADS TO 300 TOWNS IN FRANCE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Arsonists burned two schools and a bus in the central city of Saint-Etienne and its suburbs, and two people were injured in the bus attack. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete, he said.") (November 7, 2005)
JIHAD WATCH.org (YNET NEWS): "PARISIAN MUSLIMS ATTACK SYNAGOGUES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Arsonists threw at least two Molotov cocktails at synagogues in Pierrefitte-sur-Seine and Garges, leaving worshippers unhurt.") (November 7, 2005)
WorldNetDaily.com: "RADICAL ISLAM BLAMED FOR FRENCH RIOTING Muslims 'scorn' Europe's ways, 'conspire to take it over'" (November 5, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (SkyNews): "MUSLIMS SET DISABLED WOMAN ON FIRE IN PARIS" (November 4, 2005)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "PARIS BURNING" by Robert Spencer (November 4, 2005)

"www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=France"

17 posted on 11/07/2005 6:10:53 PM PST by Cindy
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

OK. The french can't control the insurrection in their country, but, the leaders of the insurrectionist...are. Got it. Oh boy!!!!


18 posted on 11/07/2005 6:47:42 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Sender
I think the riots thus far have been strategically planned to only include arson and mayhem

The Phillistine Intifada began with kids throwing stones.

19 posted on 11/07/2005 6:52:56 PM PST by fso301
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
the Muslim mediators have been playing a useful role calming youngsters from the mainly Arab estates who respect their authority far more than that of the police and local officials.

If they won't respect you, then make them fear you. But then there is a good reason nobody fears the French.

20 posted on 11/07/2005 6:54:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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