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Hart warns of theocracy trap
Denver Post ^ | 11/04/2005 | Eric Gorski

Posted on 11/07/2005 5:53:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

America risks becoming a theocracy because of the religious right's sway over politics, former U.S. Sen. Gary Hart warned Thursday in a talk in Denver.

At a lunch at the Oxford Hotel sponsored by the Denver Forum, the Democrat touched on his faith journey, took a few jabs at the Bush administration's foreign policy and reassured the audience that it's all right to be a liberal.

Hart, the author of some 15 books, was touting a slim new volume, "God and Caesar in America: An Essay on Religion and Politics."

"The language of politics in the last 10 years has more heavily gravitated toward faith and values," Hart said. "He who controls the definition controls the debate."

To illustrate the shift in religion's role in politics, Hart told of how conservative Protestants worried in the 1960s that President Kennedy, a Roman Catholic, would let the Vatican call the shots. In 2005, the Bush White House sought to reassure evangelicals that Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers was one of them.

Imagine, Hart said, the reaction if the Kennedy White House had sounded out the pope about a high-court nominee.

"Guess who would have gone up in orbit?" he said. "The religious right in America."

The country veers toward theocracy, Hart said, when religious interest groups hold so much influence.

"Once you get ... to that kind of insistence of veto power over the judiciary of America, you are in very, very dangerous grounds, and that's where we are," Hart said.

Hart was raised in the Church of the Nazarene, the same conservative evangelical denomination that claims Focus on the Family chairman James Dobson as a member. That is something Hart never would have shared on the campaign trail, he said.

"When I was in politics, I didn't like to talk about my religion," Hart said. "It wasn't because I was embarrassed by it. It was just private. Now, it's just the reverse."

Hart, who holds a Yale divinity degree, said he turned away from a rule-based Old Testament approach of "don't do that" in favor of the message of helping the poor and seeking peace that is embodied in Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.

"I am still a liberal," Hart said. "I believe in social justice. We've done pretty well by the middle class, but one in five children are in poverty in this country. We have a long way to go."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: leftistidiot; leftistliar; monkeybusiness; moonbat; theocracy; thisguysstillalive
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1 posted on 11/07/2005 5:53:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Another idiot that uses big words he doesn't know the meaning of.


2 posted on 11/07/2005 5:55:05 PM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I thought America sent a clear message to Gary Hart when he ran for president.


3 posted on 11/07/2005 5:56:40 PM PST by msjhall
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What rock did he climb out from under?!


4 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Mr. Hart, I am definitely an Old Testament, rules based approach kind of guy. And I'm telling you "don't do that".


5 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:22 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Of course former Senator Hart would say these things. Pure religion to Liberals is a "Journey" which leaves evry bit of room they desire to disregard what they do not liek about their claimed faith and say that you are intolerant for embracing what they reject. Classic, and by the way...its what Satan did to Jesus when he tempted HIM in the desert. Used a little bit of truth to deceive.


6 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:24 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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"was touting a slim new volume"

I guess a SLIM volume is all he's capable of writing on the subject..... not that I would want to read a 600 page tome from Hart on this or anything, but it is interesting how he appears to have barely filled the space between the covers.... it's probably just a glorified article that could have been submitted to Harper's......
7 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:42 PM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Gary "Monkey Business" Hart will never be taken seriously by anyone.
8 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:50 PM PST by msnimje ("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What a fool.


9 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:55 PM PST by Brilliant
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10 posted on 11/07/2005 5:58:04 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: kjvail

How could the US possibly become a "theocracy" when there are so many competing religions? What a silly twit Gary Hart is.


11 posted on 11/07/2005 5:58:05 PM PST by maro
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Hart, who holds a Yale divinity degree, said he turned away from a rule-based Old Testament approach of "don't do that"

Yeah, when he started holdin' Donna Rice's butt!

12 posted on 11/07/2005 5:58:29 PM PST by Sociopathocracy (The Left and Islamo-fascism, the twin cancers of human history.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Religion has less influence than ever in our society and they are worried about a theocracy. Just amazing.


13 posted on 11/07/2005 5:58:32 PM PST by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The language of religion was considerably more prevalent in the previous 200 years than today, even the left 75 years ago didn't hesitate to invoke God and religious imagery to bless their cause; the secular obsession is new.
14 posted on 11/07/2005 6:00:23 PM PST by giobruno
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Democrats are consistantly anti-Christian, anti-military, anti-American, and anti-economic growth. It is truly a shame what the Democratic Party has become.


15 posted on 11/07/2005 6:00:33 PM PST by Cruz
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To: Clemenza

This guy is going to tell us about religion, sprituality and morality? Duh.


16 posted on 11/07/2005 6:01:34 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ("What do you call Parisians now? "......"French Fries !")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don't believe that religious groups hve much influence. If they did, I would be very concerned.

I DO believe that people with religious beliefs have influence. I think this is a good thing. I would hate to find out that only the Godless heathens had any say about anything. At least with a religious person, you have some idea of what he stands for. You can agree or disagree, but at least he stands for something.

Another factor that the fear-mongers on the left don't want known is that the so-called religious right does not speak with a single voice. If they did, Kerry would have been running as a Republican.


17 posted on 11/07/2005 6:01:37 PM PST by IndyInVa (There needs to be less corruption. Or more opportunity for me to participate in it.)
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To: Clemenza

Those were the good old days...


18 posted on 11/07/2005 6:02:29 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He's a vain, emotional, sissy, pacifist, secular, social-gospel Christian in the mold of Jimmy Carter.


19 posted on 11/07/2005 6:02:34 PM PST by giobruno
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To: doug from upland

It just cracks me up that anyone would want to hear anything from this doofus.I thought he was dead!


20 posted on 11/07/2005 6:04:42 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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