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To: Terpfen

As I pointed out, it wasn't just the NJ and VA Governor's races. The ballot initiatives in Washington State and California were important too, and those went poorly. If you don't think that had anything to do with the mood of the country, I think you are being naive, especially considering NJ and VA.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 4:52:31 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

So, let me get this right.

GOP ballot initiatives in heavily-liberal states were defeated, and because of this, we're supposed to be in a panic.

Right.


10 posted on 11/09/2005 4:53:31 PM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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To: zbigreddogz

And several liberal-backed initiatives designed to make vote fraud easier were trounced in Ohio, a veritable battleground state. Again, hardly a bloodbath.


13 posted on 11/09/2005 4:55:11 PM PST by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: zbigreddogz
You expected to win in liberal states? Pfffft!

Soros lost bigtime in Ohio. And Silvers legislature power grab in NY went down in flames. There WERE no big losses for Repubs.

Turn off your TV and quit reading the paper. You're too easily influenced by the spin.

19 posted on 11/09/2005 4:56:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: zbigreddogz
As I pointed out, it wasn't just the NJ and VA Governor's races. The ballot initiatives in Washington State and California were important too, and those went poorly. If you don't think that had anything to do with the mood of the country, I think you are being naive, especially considering NJ and VA.

3/4 of the states you mention are far lefty strongholds. In VA it sounds like this Kilgore guy ran a lame campaign while his rat opponent ran a fake-right campaign. I don't know how you can extrapolate these results to the rest of the nation. I do know that if Jeb Bush were running for any office tomorrow in the state of Fla. he would win easily.

36 posted on 11/09/2005 5:03:26 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: zbigreddogz

The California debacle really wasn't one. 60% of the vote went to Kerry in 2004. The majority of California voters still think that communism is a viable political system. In these odd off year elections, only those with a vested interest turn out - in this case the scummy teacher's unions. The status quo was retained in California. The RATs have had the majority in the legislature for 50 years. The last conservative governor was Reagan. Since then, only RINOS and outright commies have won elections in the majority of counties. The urban and immediate suburban counties around Los Angeles and San FranSicko have large commie majority voting blocs. They call the tune in California politics.


38 posted on 11/09/2005 5:04:00 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: zbigreddogz

VA may have lost the Governorship, but we won the Lt. Govenor and Attorney General. It is a shame that the Ca initiatives did not go, but Ohio went well.


44 posted on 11/09/2005 5:05:10 PM PST by Yancey (Yancey)
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To: zbigreddogz

And the ballot initiatives in Ohio, put there by Moveon.org?????????? Care to discuss that mood?


63 posted on 11/09/2005 5:11:47 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: zbigreddogz
The initiatives in WA didn't go so poorly.  Not in terms of partisanship, in any event.  I'm more than willing to trade the "loss" of the Smoking initiative for the win in King County of finally killing the damn Monorail scam.

 

64 posted on 11/09/2005 5:11:59 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: zbigreddogz

"The ballot initiatives in Washington State and California were important too, and those went poorly..."

The ballot initiatives in California were a waste of time from the get-go. Arnold blew it, not the GOP. As for Washington State, I do not consider what goes down there any kind of a bellweather - until there is another election for Gov.

There were very significant ballot issues - in Ohio. There were 4 constitutional changes that were initiated and backed by big Dem money from outside the state. These were intended to really screw up control of elections, districting etc. The Dems lost big - by a 2 to 1 margin on each of these issues. This in Ohio was likely the most important ballot issue before the voters anywhere in the country. The State of Ohio won. The Dems lost.


157 posted on 11/09/2005 6:40:56 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: zbigreddogz

Thwacked?...see the Ohio (soros) referendum results on 2,3,4 and 5?


170 posted on 11/09/2005 7:56:38 PM PST by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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