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House GOP Drop Artic Drilling From Budget Bill
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Posted on 11/09/2005 7:10:25 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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To: parthian shot

Well there's no need to apologize...I wasn't offended. :)


121 posted on 11/09/2005 8:05:31 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: conservativebabe

Actually the party is going to hell in a honeybucket.


122 posted on 11/09/2005 8:06:23 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America's Achilles Heel is the liberal democrats and the dung heels who mislead them.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

This is outrageous. Bunch of spinless nobodies who will hurt Bush. Can't believe those wet noodles did this.


123 posted on 11/09/2005 8:06:39 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He's done more for our country than we will ever know. He's the man!)
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To: PositiveCogins

Thank you. There's one hell of a lot of frustration behind those posts.


124 posted on 11/09/2005 8:07:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: quantim

If that is the case than I don't understand the complaints about voting independent. I thought strategically that voting independent (which would be the same for write-in) was taboo. I am not aware of any write-in being elected to our Congress or as President. Who are you referring to?


125 posted on 11/09/2005 8:07:22 PM PST by Snoopers-868th (Borrowed tagline: Who do I vote for-the Republicans are socialist and the Democrats are Communist)
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To: eddie willers

No we're not. How many friggen times can you say I told you so to people who have a glazed look on their faces?


126 posted on 11/09/2005 8:08:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DevSix

We were speaking of the House, correct? Which means we are speaking of congressional districts, not overall states. In which Republicans have the edge even in "blue" states.

I resent the implication I'm a purist. My posting history indicates otherwise.

The REALITY is that conservatives aren't getting their fair "cut" of this compromise with the RINO's for a working Majority. We're getting screwed. GOP members are talking of tax hikes, no ANWR, GOP voting for a bill to protect terrorists, it's an uphill battle to get a GOOD judge on the Supreme Court, no fixes to social security....etc...we've gotten a few bones like limited tort reform.

For all the heavy lifting CONSERVATIVES do to elect Republicans of all ideological stripes, the sacrifice of time and money so far isn't worth it.

The REALITY is that if Reps don't shape up soon, look to what happened to 41 in '92 to occur to the GOP in '06. Do I want that to happen? NO. If I did I wouldn't be screaming for the GOP to shape up.

I will NOT deny the obvious truth, though, that conservatives feel shafted and a brewing trouble is on horizon for the GOP in '06 that they have brought on themselves.


127 posted on 11/09/2005 8:08:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Humidston

It's a lot worse now. I don't think we can fix it without a hay bailer! We're going to need automation if we going to have a chance.


128 posted on 11/09/2005 8:09:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

The world, the U.S., and the Republican party are in a world of hurt.


129 posted on 11/09/2005 8:09:36 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: All

House GOP makes concession on Arctic drilling

WASHINGTON - House Republican leaders late Wednesday abandoned an attempt to push through a hotly contested plan to open an Alaskan wildlife refuge to oil drilling, fearing it would jeopardize approval of a sweeping budget bill Thursday.

They also dropped from the budget document plans to allow states to authorize oil and gas drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts — regions currently under a drilling moratorium.

The actions were a stunning setback for those who have tried for years to open a coastal strip of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil development, and a victory for environmentalists who have lobbied hard against the drilling provisions. President Bush has made drilling in the Alaska refuge one of his top energy priorities.

The House Rules Committee formalized the change late Wednesday when it issued the terms of the debate when the House takes up the budget package on Thursday.

The decision to drop the the ANWR drilling language came after GOP moderates said they would oppose the budget if it was kept in the bill. The offshore drilling provision was also viewed as too contentious and a threat to the bill, especially in the Senate.

Last week, the Senate included ANWR drilling in its version of the budget, so the matter will have to be thrashed out in negotiations between the Senate and House, if the budget is approved by the House.

Protection of the Alaska refuge from oil companies has been championed by environmentalists for years. The House repeatedly has approved drilling in the refuge as part of broad energy legislation, only to see their effort blocked each time by the threat of a filibuster in the Senate.

The budget bill is immune from filibuster, but drilling proponents suddenly found it hard to get the measure accepted by a majority of the House.

That’s because Democrats heartily oppose the overall budget bill, giving House GOP opponents of drilling in the Arctic enough leverage to have the matter killed.

This breaking story will be updated.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9984545/


130 posted on 11/09/2005 8:09:56 PM PST by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

this is disgusting-- I can't believe we are seeing this behavior in the House.


131 posted on 11/09/2005 8:09:58 PM PST by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: Chena

Yes, they are.


132 posted on 11/09/2005 8:10:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: jveritas

The GOP has had no trouble twisting arms for what they want passed in the House. Including recently CAFTA. The House is easier to bring in line than the Senate. Which suggests to me that the House has dropped the ball majorly here in absence of Delay.


133 posted on 11/09/2005 8:11:45 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Uncle Vlad
"It's both maddening and demoralizing"
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The House has always been stronger than the Senate. Now we finally get drilling for oil in the Arctic per-ma frost and the House wimps out! Do you feel like your being played for a fool? Next thing you know we will get mailers telling us how the party needs money to elect more conservatives so the agenda can be passed.

I'm too tired for this game. If the party can't keep its members in line maybe it should give way to a party that can.
134 posted on 11/09/2005 8:13:36 PM PST by wmfights (lead, follow, or get out of the way)
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To: wmfights

They played that game in 2004. 2-3 more seats and judges would be through. Then we get the damn Gang of Fourteen. Some judges still hung up filibustered. I trust maybe a handful of people in D.C. now, at most, the vast majority have broken Faith and deserve what comes.


135 posted on 11/09/2005 8:16:51 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Humidston
I can't help recalling the night JFK won that election over Goldwater

Was that Bizzaro World? :o)

(JFK vs Nixon or LBJ vs AuH2O)

136 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:40 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Trout-Mouth
Who are you referring to?

Grass roots politics.  It's uphill from there.  That does include The Presidency.

Dog catcher, school board, some sewer-control ass, it doesn't matter.  Crap may run downhill but championships work uphill.

137 posted on 11/09/2005 8:18:17 PM PST by quantim (Just be glad Detroit is not in a hurricane zone.)
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To: wmfights
Do you feel like your being played for a fool?

Yes

Next thing you know we will get mailers telling us how the party needs money to elect more conservatives so the agenda can be passed

Well .. at this point my only concern is keeping the WH in republican hands

The way I'm feeling right now ... The Congress can take a flying leap off a cliff for all I care

138 posted on 11/09/2005 8:18:36 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Soul Seeker
So with the absence of Delay as a majority leader we cannot twist the arms of the rebels. How about if President Bush make the calls next week or the week after when the second vote will come after the House-Senate bill negotiations? Will he be able to twist the 25 RINOS arms?
139 posted on 11/09/2005 8:20:00 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: blogblogginaway

This isn't a breaking story! The mods have twice ripped it out of that spot. We can't be advertising anything bad from the GOP you know.


140 posted on 11/09/2005 8:21:08 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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