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WFTV Orlando "Outs" CCW Permit Holders
11/9/05 | self

Posted on 11/09/2005 8:09:47 PM PST by aberaussie

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To: flashbunny
Certainly....you just mean women that have elective abortions for the sake of vanity....right?

Women, like myself, that had to terminate a pregnancy to avoid hemmoraging (sp?) to death due to an ectopic pregnancy, surely would be exempted from obtaining an abortion permit (due to time constraints in an emergency surgery) and subsequently getting branded as a murderer in the local paper.

You can see how this could be a really touchy subject for those few women that really don't have a choice in the matter.

61 posted on 11/09/2005 10:31:47 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: Melas

Melas, save me some time and just post your address and home purchase price so I don't have to go through the trouble of digging it up and posting it myself.


62 posted on 11/09/2005 10:33:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: TNdandelion

or the woman who has an abusive ex boyfriend who has repeatedly made threats against her, and who still has to go through all the training and waiting periods everyone else does to buy a gun / get a ccw license.


63 posted on 11/09/2005 10:35:34 PM PST by flashbunny (Anybody want to trade Alito back in for Miers?)
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To: 10mm

Hmm. Orange County Property Appraisers office lists a William S Hoffman who lives in Bay Hill. Niiiiiice! Home has a tax assessed value of around $400k. He must live in the bad part of Bay Hill.


64 posted on 11/09/2005 10:40:39 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: flashbunny
or the woman who has an abusive ex boyfriend who has repeatedly made threats against her, and who still has to go through all the training and waiting periods everyone else does to buy a gun / get a ccw license.

Actually, that is just to get the permit to carry. Anyone in FL (who is not a felon, I think) can go buy a gun and take it right home with them. It is legal to have it in the car, at home, and at one's place of business. I would say that most people in FL who have guns don't have CCW permits.

65 posted on 11/09/2005 10:44:14 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: 10mm

Oh. And I see that Ms Naugtin lives in a much smaller place off of SR436. About 1100sqft with a taxable value of $33k!

I'd say Billy boy needs to give Linda a raise.


66 posted on 11/09/2005 10:45:32 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: aberaussie

" Excluding weekends and legal holidays, there is a three-day waiting period to purchase a handgun from a retail establishment. Exempt from the waiting period are concealed weapons permit holders and those trading in another handgun."

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/StateLaws.aspx?ST=FL


67 posted on 11/09/2005 10:47:04 PM PST by flashbunny (Anybody want to trade Alito back in for Miers?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Orange County Property Appraisers office lists a William S Hoffman who lives in Bay Hill

That would be him. I just Googled "William S. Hoffman" and "WFTV" and got multiple verifications.

68 posted on 11/09/2005 10:50:37 PM PST by 10mm
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To: DoughtyOne
"Placing my name and address and private information in a public place so any person can target me, is a very hostile act."

I believe that in some states, the voter registration list is "public info", and should be. I believe that driver license and auto registration should be public info, if it is not already. When you buy a gun, the Federales know, and that is the list that bothers me.

69 posted on 11/09/2005 10:58:04 PM PST by de Buillion (Perspective: 2000 dead Heroes in 3 +yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Melas; aberaussie
I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. College transcripts and your driver's license number aren't matters of public record. You retain some degree of control of who can and who cannot access that information.

Your Social Security number is a public record, but it is a crime to publish them without the consent of the person who is issued that number. The issue came up during some classes I was taking at university. Due to complaints professors and TA's were prohibited from publicly posting grades next to Social Security numbers. College transcripts are public records just as service records are public records, but that doesn't mean anyone who wants to can access them. There is a certain prominent politician who has refused to sign a form 180 that would release all of his military records. Until he signs it, it would be a crime to release them.

70 posted on 11/09/2005 11:06:00 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"College transcripts are public records just as service records are public records, but that doesn't mean anyone who wants to can access them. There is a certain prominent politician who has refused to sign a form 180 that would release all of his military records. Until he signs it, it would be a crime to release them."

This statement is internally contradictory. Either service records are public records or they are not. Apparently, since John F'ing Kerry can prevent the release or his Senatorially Doctored, revised and edited service records, they are not, and cannot be considered "public". Can't go both ways.

71 posted on 11/10/2005 12:14:21 AM PST by de Buillion (Perspective: 2000 dead Heroes in 3 +yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Melas

Whether public or private, for a public entity such as the MSM to place this information on their site and tell the public to go there to find out if their neighbors are armed, certainly seems to be a little over the top to me.

If there is a site operated by the state in complaince with the law that is not advertised, that seems quite a bit different to me.


72 posted on 11/10/2005 5:35:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: rdcorso

Agreed


73 posted on 11/10/2005 5:36:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

My email to the radio station:

I am concerned that you chose to publish a list of us, the licensed gun permit owners on your website.

While I am aware the information is a matter of public record, you do more than just sensationalize the subject by making this listing available.

I personally have a concern with my name being more widely available in that now my home may be a more likely target for thieves looking for a weapon. Your station's actions have merely provided a way for more illegal weapons getting into the hands of criminals.

Your station's actions have also made it more likely that there will be more shootings as thieves attempt to break into the homes of gun owners and find themselves being shot for their efforts.

In summary, you have done more to add to criminal behavior than to educate anyone.

Regards,
Vermonter


74 posted on 11/10/2005 6:46:37 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: aberaussie

Public information. My newspaper prints a list of newly granted permits daily I believe.


75 posted on 11/10/2005 6:58:47 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Melas
I'll get back to you...I have a copy in my files I give to each school site location where I have worked over the last 17 years. I'll have to dig it out when I get back from work this afternoon. When the New Times did the same thing a few months ago, here in Miami I notified the office of the Attorney General and the Governor (Jeb) and that publication got a visit from FDLE because I got a letter from them stating an investigation had begun based on my complaint. Not sure how far it will go since the person (LEO) outed was the Chief of Police. He has a separate CCW permit besides his badge, but the presence of the badge may make the point moot. But I'll find the law and give it to you.
76 posted on 11/10/2005 7:16:40 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
Let us know.

He has a separate CCW permit besides his badge, but the presence of the badge may make the point moot.

I would assume many LEOs have CCW permits. I little known fact here in Florida is that LEOs have to endure the three-day wait for the purchase of a handgun just like us peons - unless they have a CCW.

77 posted on 11/10/2005 7:41:47 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Melas

A charge of malicious intent would stir things up. Gotta challenge those people and grasp for straws like the left does when they are trumping up their side of things. The anti gun factions are notorious about how they promote their agenda.

The whole intent is to cause them incomvenience and discomfort and let them know there is opposition. If left unchallenged, they may try other forms of intimidation.
After all, they are causing potential inconvenience and discomfort to legal gun owners. Give the anti gunners a taste of their own medication.


78 posted on 11/10/2005 7:56:26 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Vermonter

I like that. Nice job.


79 posted on 11/10/2005 8:09:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: o_zarkman44
Gotta challenge those people and grasp for straws like the left does when they are trumping up their side of things.

Not just no, but hell no. When you adopt the tactics of the left, you become the left.

80 posted on 11/10/2005 8:21:53 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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