Posted on 11/09/2005 9:34:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The across-the-board collapse of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's ballot propositions came down to this: They were ideas with narrow appeal, further damaged by a flat-footed campaign and an unpopular messenger, the governor himself.
And that's just what Schwarzenegger's fellow Republicans said.
California's celebrity governor was elected in 2003 as a centrist Republican - an essential pedigree in a state that votes reliably Democratic. But by the end of his initiative campaign Tuesday, Schwarzenegger had alienated Democrats and independents and allowed his opponents to paint him as an extremist.
"What was defeated yesterday was a caricature of Arnold Schwarzenegger, not the reality of Arnold Schwarzenegger," Republican consultant Kevin Spillane said Wednesday.
Despite his moderate views on social and environmental issues, "that's not the tone and style and implicit message that came through in this campaign, and it played right into the hands of his opponents who depicted him as an ultraconservative Republican," Spillane said.
In many ways Schwarzenegger's failure at the polls spoke for itself. Voters turned away all four of his ballot initiatives, three of them by double-digit margins, according to unofficial returns.
The propositions sought to give the governor authority to make midyear budget cuts, take away the power of legislators to redraw their own political districts, restrict the money public employee unions could raise for political campaigns, and make it easier to fire teachers and harder for them to obtain tenure.
Several GOP analysts and consultants traced the start of the governor's troubles to his choice of propositions. For a while he talked about pushing pension reform, an issue that outraged labor unions but never made it to the ballot. In the end, the four proposals he did back generated little or no appeal with the political middle and left, limiting his support largely to Republicans who are a minority in California.
"They ran a Republican campaign in a Democratic state, and they saw that yesterday in the results," Republican analyst Allan Hoffenblum said.
Schwarzengger, who has famously called some political opponents "girlie men" and said he was always kicking the butts of others, saw such remarks come back to haunt him, said John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College who once worked as an analyst for House Republicans.
"His rhetoric put off a lot of voters, Pitney said. "'Girlie men' was a very expensive laugh line."
Analysts also said the campaign was too slow to answer criticism from opponents, who framed the governor and his proposals as extreme in a barrage of TV ads.
"Why did they wait several months to respond to attacks from unions?" Hoffenblum asked. "They made bad political decisions all the way through."
The campaign was limited to some extent in its response by the fact Schwarzenegger's opponents raised twice as much money for the campaign.
"We had to weather the beating that we took," said campaign spokesman Todd Harris, who also complained of second-guessing by people he said weren't directly involved in the effort.
"There were people who didn't lift a finger to help in the fight for reform who will now take great joy in pointing out what we should have done differently," Harris said.
Inevitably, some of the blame for the disastrous showing will fall on Schwarzenegger's advisers, including Mike Murphy and Rob Stutzman, who were at the governor's side throughout the campaign.
Stutzman discounted the notion that Schwarzenegger was a victim of bad advice from his numerous political consultants, who collectively earned millions of dollars in fees.
"The governor was determined for there to be this election and for these reforms to be on the ballot," Stutzman told reporters in Sacramento. "Obviously he sought counsel and advice from political advisers as well as government advisers. ... But ultimately the rightness of the reforms that he was seeking, the urgency to do so ... compelled him to move forward with the election."
Get out of California - blue states don't deserve our saving. Let them turn into France.
Annex California. It is a lost cause. When a liberal republican can't change California then it is a lost cause.
At least split it in two.
A lot of Californians supported GovSchwarzy since before the recall election. Where are they now. Their silence is most telling.
Arnold was not into specifics in defending his intiatives. It was all generalities. After a period of time, folks tuned Arnold out as just another actor. Details matter. He needed to go out and be specific as to how and why the hit ads of the unions and other ususual suspects were just plain wrong. He didn't. Sacremento is not Hollywood.
How will splitting it into two affect anything, unless the lines are convoluted, or one state has 80% of the population?
Mistakes made yes. . .but the above, surely not one of them.
Guess,when you have enough money you always win.
Arnold wasn't into specifics before the recall election, or since. Arnold is all about "generalities".
Agree. The biggest mistake made in this election; of course. . .was made by the voters of California.
His propositions were pretty specific proposals - at least the unions and democrats were smart enough to realize that.
Well during the romance, generalities sell, particularly when the mood of the courted is to divorce the other guy. But then, one needs to bring home the bacon, in due time. There is a season for both.
Yep....same thing in Washington State. Bill Gates and lots of other Limosine driving liberals helped fund the vote against an initiative to remove the 9 cent/gallon gas tax our Legislature so nicely gave us a few months ago....and his Daddy wants a State Income Tax.....that'll be next.
I think the decison to not debate much if at all during the Recall and all the carefully screened events was telling as to what he would deliver.
Camejo and Tom would dance circles around him. Hype can only carry a politician so far, no matter how many script rewrites are done.
I will say what I said last night as well, his advisors did not serve him well but apparently got paid very well..
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10104
Devious Democrats Attack Arnolds Initiatives
by Larry Kelley
Posted Nov 7, 2005
Come tomorrow night, Arnold Schwarzenegger might be wishing he stuck to movie stardom and real estate barony rather than trying to save California from itselfwishing instead that he were perhaps lounging on the French Riviera with fellow Europhiles such as Johnny Depp and Gweneth Paltrow in salons where the conversations inevitably come around to trashing President Bush and those American boorish boobs that voted for him.
But instead hes spending his days being trashed by Californias myriad special interests: fireman, teachers, nurses, cops, public employee unions, city, county and statewide elected officials, trial lawyers, illegal alien activists and the vast legions of the states rental mobs, anarchists, and duped do- gooders.
This is a large list of trashers that he has attracted to himself. But after last week, when the Field Poll showed that his four key reform initiatives are all in danger of defeat in Californias special election tomorrow, the list of Arnold-bashers was expanded to include national players like the Democratic National Committee, Moveon.org and sadly, even some Republicans in Congress.
His key initiatives, which are aimed at totally retooling a corrupt California government, are:
Prop 74, which pushes teacher tenure out to five years
Prop 75, which requires union members consent before money can be taken from them for political purposes
Prop 76, which gives the governor the power to cut spending if there is revenue shortfall
Prop 77, which calls for redrawing not only state senate and assembly lines but all of Californias congressional districts as well
Last week I spoke to Kevin McCarthy, who is the Republican minority leader in the California Assembly and who has introduced a very similar version of Arnolds redistricting initiative as an assembly bill, each year for the past three years. Our interview follows.
Given that the polls were mostly wrong about the recall election and predicted that Gray Davis would hold on to the governorship, how are you feeling about the chances for the Governors initiatives?
Assembly Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy: I think it all comes down to what turn out is. This is a special election. How do you call the percentage of the turnout? And which base is most motivated to turnout?
You sound guardedly optimistic.
McCarthy: Every single newspaper that has taken a position on redistricting has come out and supported it. And that was unbelievable. When the Field Poll people read just the ballot statements without endorsements the [positive] numbers go up.
Do you see that the lynchpin for reform of the state is redistricting?
McCarthy: These guys paid for their seats. The Communist Party [in the former Soviet Union] had more turnover than we have here.
I have a flier here that arrived in my mailbox from Citizens for Good Government telling me that we Republicans should vote no on Prop 77 (redistricting) and it quotes Congressman John Doolittle, Secretary of the House Republican Leadership as saying that the redistricting is bad for the Republican Party. Who are these people?
McCarthy: This shows how far theyll go. This is [the product of] Democrat money raised by [U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy] Pelosi and others in her party. All they [the Democrats] really care about is 77 [redistricting] being defeated. They paid their money. They want their return on investment and expect to be in power for at least 10 years. This is a false mailer sent by Democrats to Republican voters. This is how worried they are and how devious theyve become.
So what about Doolittle and the Congressional Republicans being against your redistricting plan?
McCarthy: Government should not be owned by a few people in the back room. Why have so many Democrats raised money to oppose 77 if somehow Republicans were going to lose? I would think they would be funding it.
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What chance was there, when even some 'FreeRepublic' members couldn't be bothered to get of their a$$'s and go and vote?
Thanks and I voted, fwiw.
You were here during the Recall Election. Remember all those threads backing Arnold and supporting his candidacy? Sure you do. They went well into the 500-1000 replies. 57% supported Arnold in the last FR poll. What happened to all those FReepers?
Rats jump ship.
Heard some talking head last night call the gov a Kennedy wrapped green republican and he was a loser from the get go.
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