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Generational war is brewing
Tracey Press ^ | 11/10/05 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1

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To: nopardons

Some people choose to live with reality's some choose to live in fantasy's....

Family issues are personal, not political.

Choices are made by people dealing with real live issues, then again I have much compassion for people ALL people that have issues with substance abuse, unwanted pregnancy's lonliness spousal abuse the folks you proably would spit on and kick to the curb


701 posted on 11/11/2005 6:49:59 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney
Then please stop posting, until you enter reality! Your bizarre stories and simpering,cloying, phony religiosity, would be comical, if it didn't all just bring down and embarrass FR.

You don't know anything at all about me, except your own assumptions, bred from fear.

Now, let's compare and contrast a few things, shall we?

missyme.....................................laney

native born Californian.................... ditto

had a child out of wedlock................. ditto

married three times........................ ditto

had an aunt who had 27 abortions.... DITTO

couldn't spell well.........................ditto

never used spell check......................ditto

always used the nonexistant word anyways....ditto

wrote ungrammatical English.................ditto

started out trying to sound religious.......ditto

when refuted, claimed the other person was just "jealous"

Is this beginning to look like a pattern, or what? LOL

The line usually is "THE PERSONAL IS POLITICAL". So, you're still off into fringe territory on that.

False compassion, or using "compassion" as a tactic to insult, is silly.

702 posted on 11/11/2005 8:11:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: laney
You don't even write English on the third grade level. This post is seriously flawed and your emotional response is juvenile.

Jump up and down? JUMP UP AND DOWN? How odd.

Hmmmmmmmmm...your aunt died at the age of 37, in 1967, you say? That would mean that she was born in 1929 or 1930.

If her eldest child was then 11, that would mean that she was 26 when she had her first child, whom she hadn't killed.

If she was married to such a fine, upstanding Catholic man, who refused to even use the Catholic church's own accepted forms if birth control ( abstinence or the rhythm method ) and your claim that she had ALL ( which is a lie, since she had an abortion in 1967 ! ) 27 abortions before 1955, one can only assume that between the average age of 13, when most girls reached menarche and the age of 22 when she married her husband, was when she has those 27 abortions. And she didn't become pregnant in the first year of her marriage? You can't do simple math? You have NO idea how old your aunt was, at any point in time?

That's all of nine years and it is highly unusual, for a girl to get preggers, immediately after she has her first period! She had, on average, three, THREE abortions , every single year, from the time she was 13 through the age of 22, when she married your uncle? Your grandmother paid for all of these abortions?

Semitrailers can drive through the holes in this story!

703 posted on 11/11/2005 8:30:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

ROTFLMAO_PIMP!
OMG! LOL_LOL_LOL


704 posted on 11/11/2005 8:33:49 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

:-)


705 posted on 11/11/2005 8:36:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

POST 702.................... PRICELESS NOPARDONS. (no comma).


706 posted on 11/11/2005 8:37:58 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

Thank you...THANK YOU ! :-)


707 posted on 11/11/2005 8:42:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You are insane..Your attempts to insult me have only made you look like a TRUE GOOFBALL...

You don't know me nor my family, you are just some tormented soul on a power trip behind the keyboard of your computer..I feel sorry for you.

You need therapy...

you truly are odd.... Goodnight...


708 posted on 11/11/2005 10:05:57 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: Kay Ludlow

http://www.ipaa.org/press/EA/


709 posted on 11/11/2005 10:16:18 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: laney
If I'm a "goofball", then just WHAT are YOU?

You posted a picture of the back of a woman on your personal page, which I assume you meant people to think is of you. The thing is, it's the picture of the final step of a balding woman, who had had a hair weave,and it's from an ad !

You've gone on and on about your aunt having TWENTY-SEVEN abortions. You claim that she was 37 when she died in 1967. But the math just doesn't add up, no matter how you slice it; none of it! And you call me names?

I can only go by what you post. I have merely quoted you and shown your fallibility and lies.

If anyone one of the two of us needs therapy, sweetums, that would be YOU! Please get the get you need so terribly and stop posting lie after lie and all of the intemperate drivel.

710 posted on 11/11/2005 10:21:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: andysandmikesmom
And now in your post #511, you almost compliment me, after such scathing rhetoric in your post #504...see now, I am confused...

I know, I know. I do that. Drives my husband crazy.

You need to understand, I am not talking about your parents. I am talking about your parents' generation. This is a big difference. Many, MANY Boomers were just as much victims of social re-engineering as our generation has been.

Here's the best way I can explain it:

When Boomers call my generation lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, unfocused, selfish brats with no parenting skills or work ethic and a self-centered mentality I, in all honesty, have to agree. As a group, I'd bet that the majority do fit that description. I don't take it personally. I can look at the big picture and say, "You got a point there, sir!" Waaaay too many of my generation *do* have these problems. I'm quite sure that the majority have at least one of those issues. Taking a defensive posture and denying that fact accomplishes nothing. In fact, it enables the sickness that's infected our group and prevents people from even looking for cure.

Let me put it this way. Pointing to homosexual behavior as a contributing factor in the spread of AIDS is a truth. Just because there are plenty of homosexuals without AIDS does not make the point mentioned any less valid.

If your parents do not fit my acerbic comment, then you can be reassured that I wasn't directing my comment toward your parents.

Make a little more sense?

711 posted on 11/11/2005 10:28:56 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: andysandmikesmom
Woah! I just read your post #661, and we really did have a miscommunication!

I was being sarcastic. You said: Dad always had us come out of our rooms eventually, and explain to him, rationally, not like a whining crybaby, exactly why were we unhappy, and what we proposed as a solution...dad helped us to talk out our problems, and helped us to see our way through to a positive result for everyone...but he would not tolerate whining...that was a no-no in our house...

What I got out of that was that you were taught not to whine by your dad and to do the right thing, etc.

My point was that *you* had the advantage of having a loving, stable two-parent home. You hold everyone else to the same standard. The problem is that the majority of my generation did *not* have that advantage. We were raised by single, working moms and we scrambled for the scraps of affection from whatever man we could find who would be willing to take five minutes to give us that gift.

I was saying that you were lucky, but that you shouldn't forget that most of *us* were not so fortunate.

(I would NEVER insult anyones mama! That is a no-no!)

712 posted on 11/11/2005 10:39:15 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I see its bash a veteran/baby boomer day.

And yet you begrudge me a little return on my SS when I am no longer able to work?

Point one: I never have and would never bash a vet. Never, never, never. My hubby is a career soldier and he will be going to combat in a couple of weeks. I've walked beside him through his military life for 16 years. So please let that one go.

Point two: I have no problem helping someone who is unable to support themselves.

I am frustrated because so many of you just don't see the big picture. If you guys don't seriously help us find a compromise on this SS issue, this country will be well and truly screwed for the next two generations.

I know it's not what you were promised. I know that it's not fair. I know that you all were looking forward to retirement and actually hoping you'd be fit enough to really enjoy it. But this is a Pyramid scheme and it just can't go on like this. It's not right for someone to see the numbers, see that this will bankrupt their children and their grandchildren and still insist that they deserve to play for 20 years, consequences be damned.

If a senior honestly cannot support themselves and if they don't have savings, job retirement, or family to care for them, then the burden should fall to the state. But all 70 million of you can't all go and kick your feet up at once and expect us to realistically carry that load. I'm frustrated because so many of you are in denial to that reality. Whether we *want* to carry that burden or not is irrelevant. We *can't* do it. And yet healthy, able-bodied Boomers are planning on flipping us the bird as they drive by in their RV and yelling, "Stop whining and buy me some gas!"

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

713 posted on 11/11/2005 10:59:45 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: Myrddin
That is a sad commentary on what has become of the educational system. BTW, cows and bulls ARE the same species. They are female and male representatives and their ability to mate and produce viable, fertile offspring is a hallmark of the very definition of the word species. A horse and a donkey are different species. They mate and produce a viable, infertile offspring called a mule.

I must not have been clear. I said that *she* didn't know that cows and bulls were the same species. She though that a cow and a cow mated and made a baby cow. A bull and a bull mated and made baby bulls.

I told her that I did believe that if this ever happened, it was the seventh sign of the coming Apocalypse.

714 posted on 11/11/2005 11:03:43 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: Marie
I'm going to try to reach you one more time. It's worth it to me for you to really understand.

This is your quote: Dad always had us come out of our rooms eventually, and explain to him, rationally, not like a whining crybaby, exactly why were we unhappy, and what we proposed as a solution...dad helped us to talk out our problems, and helped us to see our way through to a positive result for everyone...but he would not tolerate whining...that was a no-no in our house...

Your dad was a wise man. And you remembered some advice he gave you that really would be invaluable to this situation.

So let's do as he suggests. Let's stop with the emotional snapping and talk out our problems. Lets find a solution that has a positive result for everyone.

Most of the hostility directed toward Boomers by the younger generation is born of fear. I am concerned because I am understanding that when you Boomers retire either one of two things has to happen. Either the system goes bankrupt and all of you are out on your butts or they raise the taxes on the younger generation to a horrible level that won't leave us enough to provide for our own children.

I am trying to point out that your grandkids could be actually pushed to the point of poverty by the retired Boomers. This is really going to effect them on a day to day basis.

We need to find a solution that doesn't abandon our elderly or bankrupt our younger working folks.

We are all going to have to compromise, but that means that the Boomers are going to have to give too. Right now, I will not be able to collect social security until I'm 70. Why is it ok to raise the age on Gen Xers and not Boomers?

I'm am looking forward to hearing *your* point of view and I'm open to suggestions from you on how we can fix the problem.

715 posted on 11/11/2005 11:28:51 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: billhilly
Jeeze! Is this thing still alive? Lots of people have retired since this thread started.

You are funny! (Thanks for the break!)

716 posted on 11/11/2005 11:40:14 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: laney
It is pretty darn obvious that you are a woman as well as Miss Represent, MEN do not attack like women do....

It's funny 'cause it's true!

717 posted on 11/11/2005 11:42:42 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: Myrddin
don't know where an egg comes from or that cows and bulls aren't separate species

They *don't* know that they *aren't*... Sorry about my double negative. I see how I confused you.

718 posted on 11/11/2005 11:44:59 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: laney
Excercise does no good if your diet consists of high salt and sugary foods. How many children suffer with Diabetes now a days? Eating healthy should be government policy by allowing healthy foods to be affordable to the American family with children.

Actually, you raise in interesting (although off-topic) subject here. My son is a diabetic (12 years old) and I didn't feed him garbage. He's in great shape. From the research I've done over the last two years, type 1 diabetes in on the rise and diet and exercise is NOT linked to the problem. In addition, many of the obese children diagnosed with type 2 diabetes actually turned out to have type one.

Nobody knows why it's going up (along with Autism), but it is only doing this in Western nations. I've heard theories blaming lack of sunlight or too much gluten, diary, chemical exposures, etc.

Just and interesting point.

719 posted on 11/11/2005 11:51:21 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: Marie; laney
But it's completely untrue! Men "attack" women on FR all the time; it's called debating. Other times, it really is an attack.

What laney is calling an "attack", is simply being outed as a retread; which she is.

720 posted on 11/11/2005 11:55:54 PM PST by nopardons
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