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Generational war is brewing
Tracey Press ^ | 11/10/05 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1

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1 posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; m18436572; ...
Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.  

2 posted on 11/10/2005 1:23:45 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Happily the boomers have solved our problem by overwhelmingly supporting euthenasia for their own parents. Won't payback be a bitch!


3 posted on 11/10/2005 1:26:59 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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To: qam1
Yes, even Rush has said before that when the baby boomers get old, they will use their vote to selfishly benefit themselves. Meanwhile I wouldn't be surprised if generation X starts to believe in euthanasia...

The national debt was caused by living generations and IMO as massive wealth passes through deaths of the baby boomers, the death tax should stay in place and the hundreds of billions collected should be earmarked for their national debt.
5 posted on 11/10/2005 1:27:34 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: qam1

Don't worry, the X-ers have the Schiavo case as all the justification they need to solve their financial problems of 2525. "In the year 25, 25, if grandma's still alive, if the cost of care is just to high ..."


6 posted on 11/10/2005 1:28:47 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("To the terrorists, the media is a vital force multiplier" Brig. Gen. Donald Alston (USAF) 10/31/05)
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To: Baynative

Back in my day...


7 posted on 11/10/2005 1:28:58 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: qam1
Funny thing about "Don't trust anyone over 30!" -- Since when is 29 not an adult?

When you are a democrat.

8 posted on 11/10/2005 1:29:01 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: qam1

Don't blame me. I vote Republican! /sarc


9 posted on 11/10/2005 1:29:16 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: thoughtomator

You and the horse you rode in on. No one is euthanizing the boomers while I'm alive.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 1:29:31 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: qam1

Well, somebody put off writing their column until 2am the night before the article was due! ;-)


11 posted on 11/10/2005 1:29:57 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: A CA Guy
… the death tax should stay in place and the hundreds of billions collected should be earmarked for their national debt.

Not a bad idea on the surface – except for the double taxation thing. I can say that because I doubt I will have much of an estate to leave to my daughter.
12 posted on 11/10/2005 1:31:00 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: A CA Guy

"Meanwhile I wouldn't be surprised if generation X starts to believe in euthanasia..."

The boomers killed a lot of their kids, but the Gen Xs were allowed to live. Payback? And how far back?


13 posted on 11/10/2005 1:31:26 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: A CA Guy

"Meanwhile I wouldn't be surprised if generation X starts to believe in euthanasia..."

The boomers killed a lot of their kids, but the Gen Xs were allowed to live. Payback? And how far back?


14 posted on 11/10/2005 1:31:59 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: billhilly
Just put all the baby boomers in bowling alleys and tell them that's the way it will be, get over it.
15 posted on 11/10/2005 1:33:54 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
"Meanwhile I wouldn't be surprised if generation X starts to believe in euthanasia..."

For about three years now, I have believed that I will not die a natural death. "Duty to die" has been discussed on this forum before.

I'm one of the evil ones. I'm 55.

16 posted on 11/10/2005 1:34:29 PM PST by Mugwump
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To: qam1

Here's where the notion that social programs can be sustained by immigration from the third-world falls down. It's one thing to be paying to support your own grandparents -- quite another to support people who are not your kin or kith. Add a little Marxist class struggle, stir in a little racism, simmer in a French broth, and you have the receipe for a social disaster.


17 posted on 11/10/2005 1:34:32 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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Seeing that these very same "boomers" defended and celebrated A Woman's Right to Choose, the chickens are coming home to roost.

Great -- some women have broken the glass ceiling - they are single, sterile or divorced. They refused their own children the right to be born and they have not saved enough to be self-sufficient in their old age.

Now these greedy geezers are going to make sure that those of us who wanted families and had children pay again -- with our tax dollars and our children's to keep them going.

"Kotlikoff and Burns clearly sympathize with younger Americans and Americans not yet born, who will be paying both our bills and their own. 'Does it feel better,' the authors write, 'if those unknown victims of our rapacity are someone else’s children and the children of those children and the children of those children of those children?'”

There are approximately one in three children missing in this selfish boomer generation's fertility rate.

A pox on them and on our pro-abort legislators who say killing one's children is a right. There was never any federal law passed that said it was ok to kill your children.

A majority of our Supreme Court Judges merely said it was constitutional to kill off our posterity -- The antithesis of what our founders believed and stated in our Declaration of Independence.

"A nation that kills its children is a nation without hope." John Paul II


18 posted on 11/10/2005 1:37:33 PM PST by victim soul
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To: billhilly

If the left would simply stop aborting themselves, none of this would be a problem. We would then actually have a steady growth in population to help distribute the costs of caring for our older folks.


19 posted on 11/10/2005 1:37:38 PM PST by WashingtonStateRepublican
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To: qam1
While the rest of the boomers are starving in the USA, I'll be living the life of the gentleman farmer in the Philippines.

Rice, fish, and mangos. MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

20 posted on 11/10/2005 1:38:21 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: A CA Guy
Never discussed when this subject arises:

How much land does the Fed own W. of the Mississippi ?

What program(s) could be funded by an orderly sell off of some of that land ?

21 posted on 11/10/2005 1:38:31 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: A CA Guy

Wouldn't it be a little hard to sleep in there?


22 posted on 11/10/2005 1:38:45 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: qam1

http://liberalquicksand.blogs.com/liberalquicksand/2005/10/froma_harrop_li.html


Below are the last two paragraphs from the above:

"Froma – the flaming liberal – of course is demanding higher taxes to pay for it all, instead of fixing the problem in the first place! Froma and her liberal friends even whisper how Bill Gates and the other evil rich should not get their SS benefits, because after all, "they don’t need them."

"Froma Harrop is a classic example of a liberal, a communist, a socialist – a Democrat. This is why Democrats cannot be trusted to be elected Dog Catcher, let alone anything else. – Hank Dagny-LQ"


23 posted on 11/10/2005 1:38:55 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Just another Joe

& what's the name of those rebels - JI (?) that may take an active dislike of retiring Americans


24 posted on 11/10/2005 1:40:27 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: qam1
Not to worry.

The waves of illegal immigrants will take care of our problem, just like in Europe. Especially if they are Muslims.

25 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:01 PM PST by Gritty ("America's root problem is the political game remains geared toward bread and circuses -Union-Leader)
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Froma Harrop is an devoted anti-capitalist and Bush hater working in the guise of a writer. Her lack of understanding of economics has never prevented her from earning a living by writing about things that are beyond her grasp. What a great country we live in where such a know-nothing can earn a decent living spewing her know-nothingness, huh...


26 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:20 PM PST by Zeppo
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I might have mentioned it before, but y'all are starting to piss me off.

I was born in 1962.

I have paid more money to SS than you make - and I will never see a dime, in return.

On the way, I bought 5 college degrees for various folks - with five more on the way.

I don't want a dime of your money.

Stop pretending I do.

Find another bogeyman.

There is a new book out - "Hey, Mom! There is a liberal under my bed!"

It is meant for little kids. Go read it.

27 posted on 11/10/2005 1:44:16 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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Democrats are not shy about pushing for retiree benefits, but at least they consider raising taxes to pay for them.

Is this supposed to be a good thing? Higher taxes choke off economic growth (making us all poorer) while encouraging even greater spending.

The scam is that the tax cuts are not really wiping the nation’s slate clean of tax obligations. When spending exceeds tax revenues, the difference must be borrowed. That debt does not disappear. It gets paid for, with interest, by someone’s taxes. So the Bush cuts simply move the taxes from one generation of shoulders to another.

No, the real scam is that politicians continue to promise something for nothing. No matter how much they extort from the taxpayer, they will always spend that much and more.

To paraphrase a dirty Rat, It's the spending, stupid!

28 posted on 11/10/2005 1:44:47 PM PST by Logophile
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To: A CA Guy
The national debt was caused by living generations and IMO as massive wealth passes through deaths of the baby boomers, the death tax should stay in place and the hundreds of billions collected should be earmarked for their national debt.

Interesting comment.

Do you have much faith this money would actually be earmarked for such a purpose -- the proverbial "lock box".

29 posted on 11/10/2005 1:46:18 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: qam1

The old statement, "Be nice to your children...they get to pick your nursing home.", is not so out of touch.


30 posted on 11/10/2005 1:47:27 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: A CA Guy
The national debt was caused by living generations and IMO as massive wealth passes through deaths of the baby boomers, the death tax should stay in place and the hundreds of billions collected should be earmarked for their national debt.

Your childlike faith in the government's ability to spend my money wisely is touching.

31 posted on 11/10/2005 1:50:33 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Just another Joe
living the life of the gentleman farmer in the Philippines.

I set out to do the same thing here in Panama and I'm here to tell you that there's more than one side to that picture.  Everyday I get woken up by squawking parrots and monkeys and I find myself, having to manage a maid, a gardener and other staff, looking at nothing but miles of jungle---

--and loving it.

32 posted on 11/10/2005 1:50:42 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
How much land does the Fed own W. of the Mississippi ? ?

A wee bit.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 1:51:11 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: patton

You might not want the money, but 99.9999% of the baby-boomers do. The wife is a social worker. She and the other social workers that she knows all agree that the coming baby-boomers are already exhibiting the worst signs of greed. They have little money, major debts, 30-40 year mortgages that have paid almost nothing on, they think they can work the rest of their lives or that social security might pay them enough to be happy. This is going to be interesting with each passing year.


34 posted on 11/10/2005 1:51:51 PM PST by CodeToad
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My generation, which is just turning 50, is hard-charging, hard working and wants those younger people to get off their butts and TRY to work as long and as hard as we will...


35 posted on 11/10/2005 1:52:30 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: R. Scott
– except for the double taxation thing.

Under our current estate taxing, capital gains are not taxed.

36 posted on 11/10/2005 1:52:39 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: qam1

I've always felt that my generation (I was born in 1981. Count anyone born 1981 or later as my generation) has had far more in common with its grandparents (The WW2 generation) than its parents.


38 posted on 11/10/2005 1:53:54 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: Melas

Who euthenizes the euthenizers?


39 posted on 11/10/2005 1:54:27 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
& what's the name of those rebels - JI (?) that may take an active dislike of retiring Americans

I'm not going to be too worried about them.
I've got enough family there to man my compound. ;^)

40 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:35 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: JamesP81
I've always felt that my generation (I was born in 1981. Count anyone born 1981 or later as my generation) has had far more in common with its grandparents (The WW2 generation) than its parents.

That's not uncommon. Kids often think they have nothing in common with their parents.
41 posted on 11/10/2005 1:56:17 PM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: CodeToad
"They think they can work the rest of their lives"

No, we have to. to pay for our kids.

42 posted on 11/10/2005 1:57:52 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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I was born in 1962. I don't want a dime of your money.

Ah, those of us born in 1962 must think alike. I hope it catches on. I just sent the following to my mother this morning who was whining about Social Security cuts, Medicaid cuts, hoping there would be no drilling in ANWR, etc.

....

Don’t know what you are talking about re Social Security and the Democrats. You can forward it to me if you want. Medicaid and social security will be protected for your generation. For mine, Norm’s and Nicole’s, however, we’re on our own. That’s fine with me. I don’t want the Government in my knickers. Hopefully more of our generation will feel the same way as there won’t be anything for us to ‘get’. As for Social Security, I’m mad that the Republicans won’t support the President and go to the mat for personal retirement savings accounts. Don’t really care about the Democratic view on this issue since the Party doesn’t support personal accounts. I am deeply disappointed that ANWR was removed from the bill and will be talking with my elected representatives if any were of the 50 Republicans that wanted it removed. I have already told my Senator I am for drilling of the coast of Florida outside 100 miles. But really all these issues are irrelevant if radical Islam continues to fester worldwide. Just my opinion of course.

......

43 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:10 PM PST by nicolezmomma
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To: patton

Sad thing is, with the now almost mandatory employer health insurance, there is a big incentive to cull off as many older employees as possible.


44 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:00 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CodeToad
The old statement, "Be nice to your children...they get to pick your nursing home.", is not so out of touch.

And the flip side...

I brought you into this world and I can take you out.

Cheers to all! ;^)

45 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:02 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Just another Joe

Curious - can you take your arsenal w/ you to PI ?


46 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:54 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: qam1

We baby boomers reared too many kids without fathers out of our selfishness. It will come back to bite us.


47 posted on 11/10/2005 2:01:36 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: JamesP81

48 posted on 11/10/2005 2:04:22 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: sauropod

mark


49 posted on 11/10/2005 2:05:28 PM PST by sauropod (Susan Estrich is Nina Burleigh with a law degree. -- Doug from Upland)
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To: victim soul

The point WOMEN were choosing to abort babies long before it was legal...*Rosie* a woman my mother knew in the late 40's gave abortions with Lysol, Castille Soap and performed thousands before she was arressted, my aunt (Mom's sister) went to her 27 times and died at 37 she also had 6 children, her husband finally allowed her to get on the Pill but it was to late she died.


50 posted on 11/10/2005 2:10:10 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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