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Buckling His Chin Strap (George Allen For President)
National Review | November 7, 2005 | Richard Lowry

Posted on 11/11/2005 1:40:09 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii

Sen. George Allen is standing on the sideline of an empty Giants Stadium about an hour-and-a-half before the 1 p.m. start of a New York Jets vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers game. His brother Bruce is general manager of the Bucs, so Allen is here to root on the family team.

A guy with a vest reading FIELD PHOTO comes up to him: "You're going to be a tall president," he says, smiling. Allen laughs and they banter about the senator's height. He is commonly called 6' 4", but he is quick to note he is more like 6' 31/2" or 3 ", explaining that you never want to be inaccurate or to be seen as exaggerating. It is an unremarkable interaction, but the photographer has hit on something important: Standing there, basically unnoticed, soaking in the pre-game vibe, is quite possibly the next president of the United States.

It is not hard to do a calculation that says at this early stage in the '08 race George Allen has perhaps a better chance of winning the nomination than any other Republican. He combines the people skills of a Bill Clinton, with the convictions of a Ronald Reagan, with the non-threatening persona of a George W. Bush circa 2000, prior to his becoming a hate-figure for the Left. With a personal history that has forged a rare and particular political talent, blending amiability with a streak of competitive ruthlessness in a way that makes him, at age 53, one of the nation's top politicians.

He is about to embark on a challenging journey: running for reelection in Virginia next year, then -- assuming he doesn't founder on unseen shoals -- for the Republican nomination in 2008.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; allen2008; georgeallen; lowry
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1 posted on 11/11/2005 1:40:10 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Anbody but McLame.

Governor Allen is the next Prez.


2 posted on 11/11/2005 1:41:38 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

I'm in.

Where do I sign up?


3 posted on 11/11/2005 1:42:40 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: new yorker 77

Allen/Rove 2008


4 posted on 11/11/2005 1:42:53 PM PST by petercooper (The Republican Party: We Suck Less.)
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To: defconw; Mo1; Bahbah
PING!



5 posted on 11/11/2005 1:43:01 PM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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The full article is great if you can get it, a full eleven pages long. I can't find a link to the article online, but it is a pretty interesting read


6 posted on 11/11/2005 1:44:30 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii (Janice Rogers Brown for PRESIDENT!)
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To: petercooper; CarlEOlsoniii

Allen/Rice 2008 would make a better impression. Keep Rove around for aid and abetting, though!


7 posted on 11/11/2005 1:44:48 PM PST by pageonetoo (Rush probably broke the law, but it's OK. WE love our MajaRushie, and we can't think for ourselves!)
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To: All
He combines the people skills of a Bill Clinton

I'm sorry but Al Gore has more people skills than Allen. Let's be honest here, Allen is dull as dishwater. I'm not saying he's not a good Senator but he's NO Bill Clinton when it comes to people skills. And I hate Bill Clinton.

8 posted on 11/11/2005 1:45:25 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: petercooper

Sorry, ALLEN/RICE 2006.

Endgame.


9 posted on 11/11/2005 1:46:12 PM PST by angkor
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

The dummies would flip - another president named George. Given their memories, it might help them keep things straight after taking a few more bong hits or molesting the neighborhood cats.


10 posted on 11/11/2005 1:46:28 PM PST by tarzantheapeman (Hey DUers, now is a nice time to visit France)
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To: areafiftyone

I beg to differ. He gives wonderful speeches and doesn't come across as phony. He seems to have some of the best parts of Reagan and Bush put together.


11 posted on 11/11/2005 1:47:08 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii (Janice Rogers Brown for PRESIDENT!)
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To: tkathy; johnny7

(((PING))))


12 posted on 11/11/2005 1:47:40 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: pageonetoo

Rove for either Secretary of State, UN Ambassador or WH CoS


13 posted on 11/11/2005 1:47:43 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Hey,

Another post I can relate to...

Thanks!

Allen 2008!


14 posted on 11/11/2005 1:47:44 PM PST by allen08gop
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To: tiredoflaundry

THAT's George Allen?!! Whoa, baby, he's got MY vote....


15 posted on 11/11/2005 1:47:59 PM PST by MissNomer (This space intentionally left blank)
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To: areafiftyone
Allen is dull as dishwater

True enough.

But only superficial Rats think "people skills" = presidential character.

16 posted on 11/11/2005 1:48:45 PM PST by angkor
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

I don't know - today's WSJ/NBC poll he's scoring 5% and below on likeability.


17 posted on 11/11/2005 1:49:11 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: MissNomer
Hubba hubba !



18 posted on 11/11/2005 1:49:14 PM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: tiredoflaundry

This campaign is really heating up! ;^)


19 posted on 11/11/2005 1:50:26 PM PST by MissNomer (This space intentionally left blank)
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To: MissNomer

;-)


20 posted on 11/11/2005 1:50:57 PM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Ditto that. I attended one of his town hall meetings and he was upbeat without being phony. He is very firm in his convictions about taxes, the proper role of government, etc.

Dull, he was not.


21 posted on 11/11/2005 1:51:07 PM PST by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: nuffsenuff
Me too. But if utters the phrase "compassionate conservative" I'm out of there.
22 posted on 11/11/2005 1:51:32 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: All

Are we picking Allen because he can wear a cowboy hat (and very well I might add) or because he can beat the pants off of Hillary or McCain? That's what I'm worried about and right now he's being trounced by McCain in the polls 37% McCain to 5% Allen


23 posted on 11/11/2005 1:53:34 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii
He combines the people skills of a Bill Clinton, with the convictions of a Ronald Reagan

They've got this exactly backwards! Reagan had people skills (great communicator) while Clinton had the convictions (well ok, he copped a plea, but you get the idea.)

24 posted on 11/11/2005 1:54:12 PM PST by Huck (:-))
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To: areafiftyone

I won't speak for others - I'm picking him because of his principles. And I think he can beat Hillary.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 1:54:43 PM PST by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Many years ago as a lawyer, George Allen represented my wife for an insurance claim. The insurance company was trying to weasel its way out of paying for a horrendous accident caused by their client in which my wife was terribly injured.

All I can say is, he is a very fine and caring man, and I would be proud to call him Mr. President.


26 posted on 11/11/2005 1:55:32 PM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Mary Mapes was the first in the MSM that had to participate in an election by the people... she lost)
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To: Mulch

In every article I have read about Allen, everyone seems to bring up how he is NOT a compassionate conservative. I remember his quote about liberals he said when he was governor

"Let's enjoy kicking their soft teeth down their whining throats"


27 posted on 11/11/2005 1:55:48 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii (Janice Rogers Brown for PRESIDENT!)
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To: iceskater

I'm not looking for a Ronald Reagan (first president I ever voted for and proud of it) - there will never be one like him - I'm looking for someone who can beat the pants off of the Dems and McCain. He's not even beating McCain in the polls.


28 posted on 11/11/2005 1:56:25 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; AdSimp; society-by-contract; ...

Pinging the Richmond folks for an article on George Allen.


29 posted on 11/11/2005 1:56:29 PM PST by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: areafiftyone

Of course, it's way early yet.
But don't underestimate him.


30 posted on 11/11/2005 1:58:11 PM PST by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: areafiftyone

Edwards had a recognition rating of less than 1 percent two years before he ran - When you keep a low profile three years before the election, it can pay off


31 posted on 11/11/2005 1:58:15 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii (Janice Rogers Brown for PRESIDENT!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii
"Let's enjoy kicking their soft teeth down their whining throats"

I like it. I like it allot.
32 posted on 11/11/2005 1:58:29 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: areafiftyone

The public doesn't yet know Allen. Don't count him out because he isn't yet well-known. McCain's numbers are moot since there is no way in hell he will win the GOP nomination - it would sunder the party in a way that would make the Harriet Miers debacle look like childrens' recess.


33 posted on 11/11/2005 1:59:53 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

And Edwards lost the VP race. His girlie looks couldn't even help Kerry. But if Allen gets out there and lets people know who he is - Face recognition will help him this time because there will be VERY WELL KNOWN FACES runnng this time - McCain, Hillary, and some others and Allen will get left behind in the dust!


34 posted on 11/11/2005 2:01:58 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

I just mean to say no one knew Edwards at all, but on election day everyone in the country knew who he was


35 posted on 11/11/2005 2:03:25 PM PST by CarlEOlsoniii (Janice Rogers Brown for PRESIDENT!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Thats true. I wasn't too familiar with Edwards really.


36 posted on 11/11/2005 2:06:31 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

What's his favorite Concealed Carry piece? Is his holster an IWB Uncle Mikes? Or does he prefer an ankle rig?


37 posted on 11/11/2005 2:06:53 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: tiredoflaundry

He looks beefier in that pic than he does on those emails I get with his political pic. Had no idea. Well, then, let the games begin!


38 posted on 11/11/2005 2:09:29 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: areafiftyone
Yeah... I read it on NRO when it first came out.

Who knows what we're 'gonna be dealt when we walk into the booth come 11/2008. Hell... I liked Keyes... until it was either Bush or McCain in 2000.

I just pray that I'm in a red or purple state by then... where my vote will mean something.

39 posted on 11/11/2005 2:10:08 PM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

Where does he stand on gun control and policing our borders?


41 posted on 11/11/2005 2:15:31 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

I'd like to read the rest of it as well. I can't vote for somebody based on his height. O.J. and my rotten criminal brother are both pretty tall and I wouldn't vote for either of them in a race for dog-catcher in Peru. I guess if either of them decides to run for president we'll learn more. Yuck, I already know more than I care to about both of them.


42 posted on 11/11/2005 2:16:28 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

He's a hottie!


43 posted on 11/11/2005 2:16:35 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: areafiftyone

I stopped believing the polls back when they said that George Bush Senior would easily beat Bubba.


44 posted on 11/11/2005 2:18:21 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: CarlEOlsoniii

ALLLLL Right!!!! You just got my attention. If George Allen doesn't wuss out trying to appeal to everyone, then we might have ourselves a good replacement for W.


45 posted on 11/11/2005 2:18:30 PM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: proudofthesouth
Double LOL's....

Leni

46 posted on 11/11/2005 2:21:02 PM PST by MinuteGal (This Week is my Seventh Anniversary on this Forum...and I'm Still in Love with Free Republic!)
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To: thoughtomator
Allen IS relatively well known and is polling badly.He and Tancredo are even in New Hampshire at 1%.Allen has visited New Hampsire more than once and has received lots of coverage.Personally, I can not vote for anyone in the primary who voted for the pill bill.
47 posted on 11/11/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by BransonRevival
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To: new yorker 77

If he wants to be President, then standing up for this one would be a good start. He's just another one of the chinless wonders as far as I'm concerned.


48 posted on 11/11/2005 2:21:59 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Hello Free Republic.)
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To: Sioux-san
ALLLLL Right!!!! You just got my attention. If George Allen doesn't wuss out trying to appeal to everyone, then we might have ourselves a good replacement for W.

I'm putting him in front of the line - However --- Trust but verify! Happy Vets Day everyone.

49 posted on 11/11/2005 2:22:38 PM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: All
FYI George Allen
50 posted on 11/11/2005 2:23:32 PM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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