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The more I learn about other countries, the more I appreciate this one. Here, if you are a good citizen and work hard, you can make it and society accepts you as American. In France, being French includes having the Gauls in your ancestry.
1 posted on 11/12/2005 4:01:26 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Semou Diouf looks like he has had his horns removed.
2 posted on 11/12/2005 4:03:24 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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But...but...France is a great multicultural society. Their culture is so much more SUPERIOR than that of the "ugly, uncultured, warmongering Americans."

At least this is what I've been told all these years.

3 posted on 11/12/2005 4:05:31 AM PST by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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...put simply, being French, for many people, remains a baguette-and-beret affair.

Well, if you don't want what the folks who were there first want, why move there?

4 posted on 11/12/2005 4:06:48 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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"All citizens are French, end of story, the government insists, a lofty position that, nonetheless, has allowed discrimination to thrive."

The poor old misbegotten French just need to institute the wonders of affirmative action, after all, it has worked wonders here.
5 posted on 11/12/2005 4:09:51 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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CNN calls French-Tunisians "African-Americans".

 
8 posted on 11/12/2005 4:12:09 AM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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Croissants?
9 posted on 11/12/2005 4:12:38 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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France is the most inhospitable country on earth due to their overbearing conceit. They have built this self-image in their minds that they are the very important country in the world.
They just don't allow mirrors in France or if they do they say, "Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who's the prettiest of them all"?

I find them to be the joke that they will never get.
11 posted on 11/12/2005 4:15:27 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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A yellow streak running down their spine?


13 posted on 11/12/2005 4:18:33 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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What Makes Someone French?

Condescension?

14 posted on 11/12/2005 4:18:52 AM PST by wayoverontheright (.)
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European nations are built on ethnic heritage; that is their defining characteristic. It's why the Czechs & Slovaks split up their country, it's why the Balkans are such a mess, and it's why immigrants have such a hard time fitting in.

The USA is built on ideas & ideals, not ethnicity.

16 posted on 11/12/2005 4:20:00 AM PST by mark502inf
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I speak French, my wife is French and I was educated in France.

But,M.Diouf,are you a Muslim? If you are,then you and I both know that you cannot be French,or British,or American,or Australian....thanks to that silly (and scary)comic book called the Koran.

17 posted on 11/12/2005 4:20:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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What Makes Someone French?



anyone who considers BO as a aphrodisiac


18 posted on 11/12/2005 4:21:50 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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Two observations:
1. The treatment of immigrants by the French brings to mind how France recently told Eastern Eurpoean countries to defer to those who are more sophisticated.
2. Only immigrants of noble heritage have truly been integrated into French society.


25 posted on 11/12/2005 4:29:55 AM PST by monocle
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"What Makes Someone French?"


Smell, attitude, and ignorance.

LLS


30 posted on 11/12/2005 4:35:42 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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But even the language of identity has its barbs. Mr. Arhab said that when he hears people refer to him as French "of Algerian origin," it carries with it the subtext that he is not really French. Would he prefer the hyphenated lunacy we "embrace" here in the US?
35 posted on 11/12/2005 4:40:42 AM PST by bikepacker67
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Arrogance
Lack of personal hygiene
Funny accent
Surrenders within the first 6 seconds of being challenged
39 posted on 11/12/2005 4:56:57 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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the French don't think I'm French

This can only be the statement of someone who doesn't include himself among "the French." He didn't say, "some French," or, "the white French," or, "the Catholic French."

ML/NJ

40 posted on 11/12/2005 4:58:42 AM PST by ml/nj
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what makes someone french? first dont use soap,dont defend your country,blame the usa for everything.....perfect frenchie


42 posted on 11/12/2005 5:11:38 AM PST by fatteddy (liberal thinking ....for abortion....against the death penalty,kill the innocent,spare the killer)
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We've all had a good time bashing the French for their ineptitude, and deservedly so. They were so sneering and condescending towards Americans for years. Now they are getting a mega-dose of reality. Schadenfreude baby.

But seriously, we should keep in mind that the REAL France has a huge problem, one which they have doggedly refused to look at, but one which could engulf them and eradicate France as we have known it.

The old France, with incredible food, culture, romance etc is still there, but it's surrounded by alien invaders. The media keeps insisting the problem is that France hasn't successfully integrated the invaders, but in reality the invaders have no intention of ever becoming French. Even when I see an article like this one, with some African claiming he is not getting his beret, I have to take it with a grain of salt.

Particularly, especially, overwhelmingly in the case of Muslim invaders. THEY WILL NEVER BE FRENCH. Assimilation into infidel culture has been described by one Imam as 'cultural rape'. Their intention is to bury the old France then deny it ever existed, just as they are doing on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. If they succeed, the Eiffel Tower and Arc du Triomphe will become rubble or ancient proof that Mohammed visited there. Wine and cheese will be replaced by goat's milk and couscous. Showgirls will be encased in burkas. The original French people, white European French people will become dhimmis in their own land.

So even as we enjoy poking the silly frogs, remember that there but for the grace of God go ourselves. Hopefully they will grow a pair and kick the invaders OUT. I don't think the US should have to lose one single life to do it for them. They have everything they need except perhaps the will.

50 posted on 11/12/2005 6:06:18 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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"I was born in Senegal when it was part of France," he said before putting the pipe in his mouth. "I speak French, my wife is French and I was educated in France." The problem, he added after pulling the pipe out of his mouth again, "is the French don't think I'm French."
The same sort of situation applies to a Turk who is born in Germany and "returns" to Turkey as a youth - not really accepted in either Germany or - since German is actually his native tongue - Turkey. Where does someone like that feel least estranged? New York City, of course. There it feels like everyone is a foreigner so - not being a native is no big deal.

52 posted on 11/12/2005 6:29:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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