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Eye of the Storm: Whose new Middle East? (Must Read)
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Nov. 12, 2005 | By AMIR TAHERI

Posted on 11/12/2005 7:37:38 AM PST by F14 Pilot

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To: F14 Pilot
All that the Islamic Republic needs to do is wait until the Bush presidency is either politically destroyed by its opponents in Washington or comes to the end of its term.

If that's all it needs to do, why force the issue years before the end of his term by so brazenly pursuing nukes and producing a spiffy campaign marketing genocide against Jews?

41 posted on 11/12/2005 11:06:19 AM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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To: Frank T
I read that the Duke, John Wayne, voted for Jimmy C, too.

I hadn't heard that. Wayne was a solid conservative and Ford was a weak conservative. But compared to Jimmy he was a General Patton.

Just goes to show, the GOP can't just put anyone on their ticket every four years...sometimes the base won't show up if so called moderates like Ford, Dole and, now, people named Bush nominated.

In foreign policy W is without doubt the strongest most determined president I've seen in my life time. Ford was like Nixon, he believed in detente. But Reagan said that detente is what you have with your turkey just before Thanks Giving.

Carter was an utter fool. His foreign policy was be nice to your enemies and stab your allies in the back. And gut our military in the process. He told us that we had an inordinate fear of communism while pardoning the draft dodgers who had fled to Canada.

42 posted on 11/12/2005 11:15:51 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: saradippity
It seems that the United States lacks a collective memory of what happened within the lifetime of many of us.

I remember those times like they were yesterday. I was working at Lockheed Martin in Denver with an Iranian technician in the early 80's who told me he was a member of the Shah's elite body guard and had fled after the revolution in fear for his life.

He was one of the good guys. And totally disgusted with the religious fanaticism that was enveloping his country.

43 posted on 11/12/2005 11:42:14 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: MNJohnnie
Sure they can reach us.

A freighter or tanker in any harbor USA.

Easy hits are San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York among many others.
44 posted on 11/12/2005 3:15:36 PM PST by DB (©)
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45 posted on 11/12/2005 7:59:18 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: MNJohnnie

The more overt they are the better it is for us.


46 posted on 11/12/2005 8:35:03 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
In foreign policy W is without doubt the strongest most determined president I've seen in my life time. Ford was like Nixon, he believed in detente. But Reagan said that detente is what you have with your turkey just before Thanks Giving. Carter was an utter fool. His foreign policy was be nice to your enemies and stab your allies in the back. And gut our military in the process. He told us that we had an inordinate fear of communism while pardoning the draft dodgers who had fled to Canada.

Well said! I sometimes wonder if the failures of Nixon and Ford helped to allow Carter to the White House. But also, I think that Carter's failures helped Reagan win.

Luckily, Carter did not get the opportunity to put a judge on the Supreme Court.

Judges are one of my top issues when voting, but I'll never understand why Nixon could only get one conservative Judge (Rehnquist) of the four he got to choose for the Supreme Court. If Nixon had chosen all conservative judges, there are a lot issues that would still be with the states...including abortion, since four conservative judges along with the one conservative judge (Byron White) picked by Kennedy would have not allowed the Roe v. Wade decision or allowed all the environmental regulations that came so quickly after Nixon established the EPA. Gerald Ford's only judicial choice, John Paul Stevens, is one that hopefully will retire soon.

47 posted on 11/12/2005 9:04:43 PM PST by Susannah (http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com http://www.revisionisthistory.org IS REVISIONIST HISTORY!)
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To: TheCrusader
All one has to do is google up numerous news items in the last 3 or so years that speak of the US (and UK) major concerns when observing the Iranians test launching their current missiles from freighters...
48 posted on 11/12/2005 9:35:21 PM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: MNJohnnie

bttt


49 posted on 11/12/2005 9:39:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: F14 Pilot
"Next February, Teheran is scheduled to host the largest gathering of radical leaders from across the Muslim world to endorse its one-state formula for ending the Israel-Palestine conflict."

Excellent. I hope Israel works it's magic with it's accurate target shooting. I won't hold my breath for our own leaders to finish what was started on 9/11. If Bush could launch one last strike, he would go down in history as the savior of Western civilization from the techno-barbarians. With the targeted assasination of the radical Muslim leaders, he would save countless American lives. Go Bush. Go to the heart of the axis of evil! Show them that we Americans will never give up!

50 posted on 11/12/2005 9:44:52 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: MNJohnnie
Umm no. They cannot reach us. They will drop it on Israel if they are stupid enough to use one.

Iraq is closer than Israel, and 75% of our entire active military are the target. Russia and China, who are supplying the missiles and the nuclear technology plan to take care of the other 25% at home.

Islam rides a Red horse.

(Revelations 6:3
When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come *and see."
4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword.

51 posted on 11/13/2005 12:40:35 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: saradippity
That sounds like a wordy way of saying "it's America's fault!"

The BAF crowd hangs out on other forums...

52 posted on 11/13/2005 1:09:58 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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53 posted on 11/13/2005 3:33:19 PM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: TheCrusader
But time passed quickly and ..........

...the Clintons came to the White House and allowed technological secrets to get to China in return for big contributions to the democrats by one of the companies dealing with China.

Hope you don't mind. I just hate unfinished sentences...

54 posted on 11/13/2005 4:09:42 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Windsong
Was there ever a time when Arabs & Jews weren't at each other's throats?!

If the gang in Tehran gets a nuke, they will use it, for mohammed.

55 posted on 11/13/2005 4:41:03 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Coop
All I know is I am an American,a citizen of the United States which is a Constitutional Republic under God,that even yet has the potential to be the finest and greatest nation the world has ever seen.

However,it is time for a little less knee-jerk,Pavlovian responding and a little more reflecting on the Aspens that are turning. Don't you agree?

56 posted on 11/13/2005 4:42:48 PM PST by saradippity
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To: F14 Pilot
Next February, Teheran is scheduled to host the largest gathering of radical leaders from across the Muslim world to endorse its one-state formula for ending the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Sounds like a potential target rich environment!

57 posted on 11/13/2005 4:50:03 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: DB

Sure they can reach us.

A freighter or tanker in any harbor USA.


And I doubt anyone will want to claim responsibilty when that happens... hence the MAD doctrine goes out the window.


58 posted on 11/13/2005 4:58:12 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

That's the point.

They don't need to claim responsibility.

The goal is to both kill us and bankrupt us. It isn't terrorism in the strict sense of trying to cause wide spread fear. They're trying to actually destroy us.

In a tanker or freighter that could have come from anywhere, trying to determine where it came from after the fact would be very difficult. Pretty much nothing left...


59 posted on 11/13/2005 6:11:32 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: DB
In a tanker or freighter that could have come from anywhere, trying to determine where it came from after the fact would be very difficult. Pretty much nothing left...

Or small nukes placed at strategic locations (military bases) would leave us with our pants down while we tried to figure out what happened. The Russians and Chinese both stand to benefit from this strategy. Or, several large cities vaporized would also put them in a position to offer "help" to us.

60 posted on 11/13/2005 6:19:31 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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