Skip to comments.Santorum: Don't put intelligent design in classroom
Posted on 11/13/2005 3:49:41 PM PST by Crackingham
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Cannot agree with you on yesterday's Senate vote. Republicans are saying it was the only way they could keep a big bunch of Republicans from voting with the Democrats on their bill to surrender and pull the troops. The ONLY thing missing from the Democrat bill in the Republican one was a date certain to leave Iraq. If the Republicans and Santorum think this is going to get them re-elected in '06 (appeasing not only the RINOs but also the Democrats) I think they are in for a big surprise come election day. Someone needs to tell them "We suck less than the Democrats" for their slogan is NOT a winner.
"So why do the higher forms of life rely on the male and female for reproduction?"
That is because only higher forms of life can talk a chick into bed? I'm not kidding. Lower organisms are self sufficient. Some even produce their own food. It is all evolution -- from single cell simple organisms to multi-cellular complex life. Evolution explains it all.
Brilliant that single cell organisms can produce food and are self-sufficient. So you are saying complex organisms just put themselves together by a non-intelligent force. Doesn't a doctor's degree require more intelligence than a high school diploma. You have a whole lot of faith to believe advanced life just happens to come together. What evolution does not explain are the physical laws of nature.
The physical laws come from someone who made them or are we going to say they evolved too or just happened. Whole lot more faith.
Learn to read. I don't believe that "associate with" is the term that I used. I come across all kinds. I probably should have said "limited reading" instead. Given my busy schedule(s) my time for reading is limited and I have many more priorities.
That my man I will defer to my earlier comments on, all of them. The delta between evidence for Creation vice evolution is so ridiculously lopsided that only someone with an agenda would miss it.
As to where it is, if you read a fraction of what I've read on that in the past and you'll be convinced. As to the work, you do it. I'm not your gopher. There's plenty of it out there and I'm sure someone here has one of those handy lists somewhere.
Suffice it to say that much of the data is in the biological, microbiological, and other related scientific areas but not limited to them. That should push you off in the proper direction.
People trust others that lead them right down the tubes too! By that measure Hitler was right!
So, in other words, you say there is lots of evidence, but you won't actually back that up.
So why hasn't science accepted all this "evidence" you claim is out there? More of the global atheist conspiracy?
I don't ever let politics interfere with science!
Er, you claimed he wasn't acting conservative, but the ACU begs to differ. Santorum votes conservative.
I don't ever let politics interfere with science!
Funny, that's exactly what ID is - making science lower its standards to serve a political agenda.
The 2 statements don't go together. I actually think we're on the same page though. I don't go around bashing Santorum, and I will vote for him, but my enthusiasm has taken a hit over the last couple of years. You sounds like yours has too.
I was responding to someone who claims he is a compromiser. well, heck, every good politician does some of that, and its not necessarily bad. However, Santorum is less of a compromiser than, say, Hatch, Frist, Stevens, Dole, DeWine, etc.
I stand by my claim that Santorum is in our "TOP TEN" of good conservative Senators. My enthusiasm is not diminished at all, but I am fearful that we will lose him if we don't get our act together and rally around his re-election.
Hypothesis Contrary to Fact. To claim that it is improbable that the Universe exists as it is, is Reification. "Improbability" is an abstract concept held by human beings, not a extant fact.
The Universe exists, therefore it is entirely probable, no matter the faulty opinions of some men.
The rest of your post amounts to the same, and isn't worth my time.
Astrophysists claim to have evidence that the universe popped into existance long ago in some kind of big bang. Which shows some confirmation that the universe did not always exist . . .
I can't expect you to follow all my past posts. I have always held that something has always existed, that the Big Bang as stated is flawed. I suppose I could resort to ID and say "that is not explained, THEREFORE God did it!!!" But I won't.
Just because we don't know how it happened doesn't mean it has a supernatural cause.
Class . . . CLASS . . . CLASS!!!!
Notice, this is entirely a personal attack with NO CONTENT. This the technique of all those who lack ALL credible scientific seriousness who have to resort to character assination instead.
The big bang and long term evolution seem to be the most popular guesses among those who study the physical evidence of such things.
However if you have considered the astronomical evidence and maintain an alternate conclusion, I hardly care to argue that you do not have "even one iota of evidence". That would just be silly.
[LogicWings]Notice, this is entirely a personal attack with NO CONTENT. This the technique of all those who lack ALL credible scientific seriousness who have to resort to character assination instead.
Class, Class, Class.
Note you never, ever, did or could, apparently, defend your baseless failures on probability science. Hence, your diatribe, divrced from the proper rhetorical context, attempting to mischaracterize my observations of your lack of credibility, make it clear that it is YOUR REJOINDER which is entirely a personal attack with NO CONTENT.
Hoist by your own Petard, aren't you? Just agree, since it is true.
It's good to see that some politicians are capable of learning and putting their errors behind them.
There isn't. Present it. My cosmology doesn't need it.
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