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To: AndyTheBear
The scientific method might be applicable in these disciplines is some cases, but not in others--

The limits of scientific validity are not concerned with sectarian limitations - that simply isn't how the application of science works. And I agree that theology is a valuable discipline, and I really believe that spirituality is essential to our being as well. But when a theory becomes so overwhelmingly supported by material evidence as evolution has, it's time to stop sweeping it under the rug and perhaps learn how it may be part of the big picture.

575 posted on 11/14/2005 8:50:28 PM PST by Quark2005 (Science aims to elucidate. Pseudoscience aims to obfuscate.)
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To: Quark2005

Science can't ever be integrated into a literal reading of the bible for obvious reasons.


576 posted on 11/14/2005 8:53:40 PM PST by durasell
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To: Quark2005
...it's time to stop sweeping it under the rug and perhaps learn how it may be part of the big picture.

As far as evolution as the origin of life, I'm inclined to beleive it (have been for the last 20 years or so), but I don't think its validated by the scientific method nor paticularly useful in biology. I just it is the only reasonable explination fo the evidence. By contrast ongoing evolution is very useful scientific theory (and I don't mean theory in the "its only a theory" layman way, I mean it in the "good science" way).

Along come some folks (fellow Christians I would guess) challenging the evolution as the origin of life model, and want to have some statement read in one of my kid's biology class. Hey, my nose skin remains undiminished, paticluarly if evolution as the origin of life were also presented.

But for the most part the biology class should just be about the science, not about extrapolating the science into the distant past.

As for other school districts, let the other parents decide what they want. It seems to me nationalizing education was a mistake in the first place, and just because congress is gathering education funds and redistributing them, does not give them a mandate to pass laws regulating what is and is not to be considered approriate in biology class. It is even more inapproriate for the federal courts to try to legeslate it (for they are both the wrong level AND the wrong type of government to legislate local matters).

Be that as it may, both the Darwin camp and Creation camp on these threads seem to assume I reject evolution outright. I don't feel paticularly inclined to let on that this assumption is wrong, perhaps because I'm a bit of a smart ass, but partly because it really shouldn't matter if my arguments are valid.

631 posted on 11/16/2005 12:47:19 AM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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