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WONDERING WHERE THE LIONS ARE (ABC News Story on Torture Debunked)
Federal Review ^ | Monday, November 14, 2005

Posted on 11/15/2005 5:41:45 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Puppage
And, charge their family for the price of the bullet as they do in China.

One of the sub-plots in the movie "Brazil" was that the government would charge the families of those arrested with the cost of the arrest. When someone was mistakenly arrested and killed, the "ministry" had to figure out some way to refund the money to the family, and it was something that nobody really knew how to do, since there had never been a refund. Hilarity ensued!

Well, not really. But it's quite an interesting movie. I managed to see it on the big screen, and it was one of the most visually stunning movies I've ever seen. If you haven't seen it, imagine Monty Python doing George Orwell's "1984!"

In fact, it's got Michael Palin in it. And Robert DeNiro plays an air conditioning and heating terrorist. Terry Gilliam is a genius.

Mark

41 posted on 11/15/2005 6:38:34 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Lions! Holy Crap! Did they get taken to Kenya?

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/

Mark


42 posted on 11/15/2005 6:40:30 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I want to hear them properly use the words "dishonest", "lies" and "treasonous".

And what I wouldn't do to hear a pubbie pol come out and state for the record that when any dem says that President Bush lied, that the dem is "a lying sack of s**t!" USING THOSE SPECIFIC WORDS!

Mark

43 posted on 11/15/2005 6:43:13 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They didn't actually get eaten by the fictional lions, so what's the problem?

If they're going to lie about lions and get away with it, we might as well get real ones.


44 posted on 11/15/2005 6:47:48 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Space Wrangler

Cleese, pafing Mr. John Cleese.


45 posted on 11/15/2005 6:57:23 AM PST by p. henry
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Excuse me .. we already knew these people were being told - if you're captured, claim to be tortured - and so they are doing what they are told.

Hmmmm?? ABC never took that into consideration either. Showing once again the media's compliance with Anti-Americans.


46 posted on 11/15/2005 7:01:09 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: AmericanChef
Correct. To cause to be eaten by a lion may be torture. To threaten with a lion is not torture.

This is what is wrong with the McCain amendment. Torture, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. It is already the policy of the executive branch that it will not torture Al Qaeda detainees held in foreign prisons. The executive branch therefore has the discretion to determine what is and what is not torture. If Congress passes a law against torture of those detainees in those prisons, the discretion of the executive branch will be gone and courts and lawyers will ultimately decide what is and what is not torture. In other words, the McCain amendment will give those detainess access to federal courts to challenge the conditions of their confinement.

47 posted on 11/15/2005 7:06:00 AM PST by p. henry
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To: cardinal4

The aclu will do anything and everything to bring down the American Way of living. So far they have been pretty successful. They have changed many of our laws curtailing our freedoms.


48 posted on 11/15/2005 7:08:57 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"But watching them suit-up and play fro 16 weeks every fall IS torture."

Play?
When was the last time you saw them play?

49 posted on 11/15/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob

Against Clevand....

At Tiger Stadium...

Altie Taylor had a stand-out game.


50 posted on 11/15/2005 7:16:43 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: SittinYonder

It's not whether or not they were actually put in a cage with lions that did or did not exist, it's whether or not the ACLU and ABC News can make them seem convincing.

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Bingo!


51 posted on 11/15/2005 7:40:26 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

I want to hear them properly use the words "dishonest", "lies" and "treasonous".

**
I hope they're listening.


52 posted on 11/15/2005 7:44:01 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bump


53 posted on 11/15/2005 7:45:11 AM PST by VOA
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It doesn't matter if the lions were there or not. Nobody has been able to prove the story as false, but we know the story is authentic. (sarcasm).


54 posted on 11/15/2005 7:50:04 AM PST by gedeon3
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Of course there was no investigation! Haven't you been listening to Mary Mapes recently? They put out any story they want and we have to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is false.
This has been going on for as long as 60 minutes has been on the air. Even longer (Walter Cronkite).
Only now have they been found out. If it weren't for the internet and bloggers who knows how long this would be going on!


55 posted on 11/15/2005 7:52:48 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: MarkL

>Lions! Holy Crap!<

GMTA!! I love that silly song.


56 posted on 11/15/2005 8:05:56 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They should have used real torture...like threatening to send them to work as Hillary Clinton's pool boys.


57 posted on 11/15/2005 8:19:54 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: mortal19440

It's not torture, it's Motivational Tools, or MTs. The guys sitting in for Savage last night were calling them Persuasion Tools or PTs, but I like MTs much better, it sounds like a PC self-improvement regimen.


58 posted on 11/15/2005 8:23:44 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: Puppage

I think when Iraq passes their new Terrorism law they will be hung and their house bulldozed a la Israel.


59 posted on 11/15/2005 8:24:31 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: Piquaboy

Oh come off it, they do that to Christians in China.


60 posted on 11/15/2005 8:25:08 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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