Sure, Hugh, veto the DEFENSE bill because the senate asked for quarterly reports, and expressed the view that as Iraq can defend itself, we should back off.
If we are going to veto this bill, it should be because of the REAL disaster, the "anti-torture" amendments.
You know, in this debate over this amendment, we got a Democrat Senator, Senator Lieberman, to make a SPEECH on the floor where he said that he supported the war, that he was proud of his vote, that the attacks on the Bush administration about misleading were a bunch of crock.
He said that the Democrat's amendment hurt our troops, emboldened our enemy, and confused our allies.
Every one of us can take Lieberman's quotes and use them for the next month to repudiate the democrat's proposals for the war, and show them for the political small-minded politicians they are.
But instead, the rabid right wants to take the 50 caliber guns and aim them at our own troops, calling this a horrible capitulation.
Fight the war, not the battle.
everything you say would make sense if the MAJORITY OF AMERICA GOT THE FACTS!
Sad point is... MOST of AMERICA doesn't pay attention....they hear bits, not even the facts- just "moods" and "feelings"
THis is another step in the direction of the Lib ultimate goal...... Vietnam mentality and defeat....
It's not US you need to convince.. is the MAJORITY of AMerica... and you an't reach them....
But guess who can... NYT, CNN, WASH COMPOST, etc...
How did the McCain amendment affect previous anti-torture statute and treaty? Torture is illegal under UCMJ, US Statutes, and international anti-torture treaty that SU signed onto in 1994. The country has a policy of not using "cruel and unusual" measures.
So what is the effect of the McCain amendment (S.AMDT.1977, IIRC), besides "present PR"?