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Jonah Goldberg: Harry’s Mirage (Dems' Iraq lies)
National Review Online ^ | November 16, 2005 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/16/2005 1:23:43 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy

In Washington, soft-spokenness is often confused for intelligence and subtlety. We're so accustomed to shouting that when someone whispers we assume there must be something more thoughtful in the offing. A case in point is Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader. Just the other day he told reporters, "There's a dark cloud hanging over the White House." Then, to clarify this obscure metaphor, he added gravely, "It's really a storm cloud."

One expects more Solomonic nuance from the man any day now: "Something's fishy in the White House. And by that I mean the White House really smells much like a fish. An old fish. The sort of fish that smells bad." Or: "Look before you leap --- because that way you'll know what you're leaping over and might not fall."

Reid is leading the Democrats' attack on the president over the war in Iraq, but because the Minority Leader wears such a big, soft mitten over his hamfistedness, it's difficult to appreciate how lame the attack really is. When asked to explain his vote for the war the other day he said, "I based [the vote] on a number of things: yellowcake; aluminum tubes; secret meetings by Iraqi agents in Europe; training facilities in Iraq; training terrorists. All these things simply were not true."

Never mind that these were not the reasons he offered at the time for his vote. Never mind that he had access to much of the same intelligence as the White House. Never mind he voted for the removal of Saddam in 1998. Never mind that simply because these things were not true doesn't mean the president lied. Never mind, never mind, never mind.

"Hindsight is 20-20," goes the common phrase, to which Reid might add, "You can see things better after the fact."

But the truth is hindsight isn't 20-20, and you can't always understand things better after the fact. If we could all see the past clearly and objectively there would be very few disagreements about politics, religion, history and whose turn it is to take out the garbage.

Indeed, the past Reid is pointing to is a mirage, and he's convinced many in his party that they see it, too. For example, on Fox News Sunday, the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller, explained that his vote for war authorization in 2002 was really for more negotiations through the United Nations. This from the man who, with the benefit of copious classified intelligence at his disposal, took to the floor of the Senate as then-chairman of the Intelligence Committee to insist: "I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated."

If Iraq was an imminent threat, why on earth would Rockefeller be hoping for more U.N. negotiations? George W. Bush never said Iraq was an "imminent" threat. But it's funny: Democrats constantly insisted --- during the last round of liberal whining --- that Bush had implied the threat was imminent in order to short-circuit debate over the war. Because, you see, everyone agreed that if the threat from Iraq was imminent, then war would have been justified and necessary. Well, Rocky did say it was imminent --- no doubt influencing many of his colleagues because he was their intelligence point man. But now Rockefeller says he didn't vote for the war because the threat was imminent. Heck, he says he didn't vote for war at all. He voted for Kofi Annan to wag his finger at an imminent threat to the United States of America. That's leadership for you.

The truth is that Rockefeller saw things more clearly back then. Saddam may not have been an imminent threat, but Rockefeller was right that the question of imminence was "increasingly outdated." The lesson of 9/11 for most Americans back then wasn't "We need better intelligence about Saddam." It was "We must never let this happen again." The attacks proved that our enemies were willing to do anything, and that meant no more fooling around with U.N. resolutions, inspectors, or Saddam's lies and bluffs. It was time to get serious. And Saddam was the right target not so much because he was the biggest threat but because he was the best place to get started, after Afghanistan.

This doesn't mean there weren't good and serious objections to toppling Saddam. Reid is forgetting all that. Indeed, his chief --- almost sole --- objection to the war wasn't about Iraqi intelligence, it was about Bush's failure to build a larger international coalition (ditto John Kerry and others). The emphasis on proving the WMD angle came from Bush's desire to win the U.N.'s approval for an umpteenth resolution, not the Democrat-controlled Senate.

You don't hear about any of this from the "Bush lied" Dems because they're following Reid's lead. And, as they say, the fish rots from the head down.

The head is Reid, in case you didn't get that.

--- (c) 2005 Tribune Media Services


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; bushlied; demlies; iraq; jayrockefeller; lies; reid

1 posted on 11/16/2005 1:23:45 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy

I don't suppose that ABC's World News Tonight is going to pick up on this.


2 posted on 11/16/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by Radix (Wishful Thinking: A Tag Line Field which actually contains enough places to complete a serious thou)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
If we could all see the past clearly and objectively there would be very few disagreements about politics, religion, history and whose turn it is to take out the garbage.

I love reading Jonah's columns!

3 posted on 11/16/2005 1:27:53 PM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Saddam may not have been an imminent threat, but Rockefeller was right that the question of imminence was "increasingly outdated." The lesson of 9/11 for most Americans back then wasn't "We need better intelligence about Saddam." It was "We must never let this happen again." The attacks proved that our enemies were willing to do anything, and that meant no more fooling around with U.N. resolutions, inspectors, or Saddam's lies and bluffs. It was time to get serious. And Saddam was the right target not so much because he was the biggest threat but because he was the best place to get started, after Afghanistan. -Jonah Goldberg

It had become necessary to stop infinite tolerance, and Saddam had less rope left than anyone. Even though the negotiations with Iran are in pretty poor shape, I think there is a different quality now - rogue states no longer rest so completely on a total lack of willingness to call their bluff.

4 posted on 11/16/2005 1:38:31 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy

I wonder when the MSM will notice that:

(1) Moveon.org funds the Democrats
(2) George Soros funds Moveon.org
(3) Non-friendly Arabs fund George Soros
(4) Democrats are saying EXACTLY what not-friendly Arabs would wish them to say in order to cause America to lose a war to some non-friendly Arabs.

Should I hold my breath?


5 posted on 11/16/2005 1:54:58 PM PST by pfony1
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Only if you look good in blue................


6 posted on 11/16/2005 5:35:33 PM PST by Nekman (The MSM has been S.O.S for decades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

Iran and North Korea sure don't seem to fear us. We're going to do nothing in either of those countries until a nuke goes off where we care enough about it to get off our collective fanny. No matter the tough talk from here and the WH, the U.S. doesn't have the stomach to attack Iran or Red Korea. It has demonstrated that in Iraq.

I am not sure we'd even attack `em for nuking another country, say, Russia or Serbia, though a nuclear attack against those countries would clearly be crimes against humanity on an international scale. In our own country, we don't even enforce our laws--we haven't hung a single traitor yet this century, and we have hundreds of them in the MSM to choose from.


7 posted on 11/16/2005 6:31:21 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Let O'Connor Go Home! Hasn't She Suffered Enough? Hasn't The CONSTITUTION Suffered Enough?)
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To: pfony1

And .. since Bubba wants his wife to win in 2008 .. he's willing to go into the Arab community and embarrass the President and his own country by making an idiot statement like, "the war in Iraq was a mistake".

This HUGE BLUNDER BY THE CLINTONS will cost them the election.


8 posted on 11/16/2005 6:39:32 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: RebelBanker
"I based [the vote] on a number of things: yellowcake; aluminum tubes; secret meetings by Iraqi agents in Europe; training facilities in Iraq; training terrorists. All these things simply were not true."

Gees, they're not even trying anymore. Just a bad lie.

9 posted on 11/17/2005 1:51:25 AM PST by ottersnot ( You can't spell Liberal without L, I, E.)
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To: CyberAnt
This HUGE BLUNDER BY THE CLINTONS will cost them the election.

I think so too. It is one thing to harp on "mistakes" made in the aftermath of the invasion, quite another to say that the Iraq war was a mistake.

History will prove the removal of Saddam and the insertion of a friendly regime in the middle of the Middle East to have struck a pivotal psychological blow to the jihad and provide a strategic benefit for years to come.

Clinton has picked the losing side to root for.

10 posted on 11/17/2005 4:12:49 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: CyberAnt

"And .. since Bubba wants his wife to win in 2008 .. he's willing to go into the Arab community and embarrass the President and his own country by making an idiot statement like, "the war in Iraq was a mistake"

The former president is finally admitting that his 1998 Desert Fox War in Iraq in the middle of his impeachment proceeding was a mistake? A big mistake?? A wag the dog hugh and series mistake???


11 posted on 11/17/2005 5:17:50 AM PST by chgomac
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To: wayoverontheright

I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see it that way.


12 posted on 11/17/2005 10:26:04 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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