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Deserve’s Got Nothin’ To Do With It
dansargis.org ^ | November 16, 2005 | Dan Sargis

Posted on 11/16/2005 2:05:12 PM PST by Dr.Syn

 

 

Deserve’s Got Nothin’ To Do With It

November 17, 2005 

Being one of a dozen or so people who made the mistake of watching MSNBC last Friday, I now know two things: (1) Why MSNBC is approaching a zero viewership (it’s rating are actually a bit better than the Hearing Loss Network News) and (2) You deserve what you get when you ask for it.   

It really is possible to be an academically well educated airhead and MSNBC’s Lisa Daniels is living proof.  Academic credentials are no substitute for the preponderance of intellectual independence necessary for the strength of common sense to hold sway over the timidity of politically correct dogmatic drivel.  Heaven help the elite “intellectuals” if individuals should have to assume some personal responsibility for their actions. 

Case in point...The Natalee Holloway whodunit. 

Daniels, who bills herself as having “graduated first in her class from Hamilton College” and graduating “cum laude from Harvard Law School”, guest-hosted Friday’s Abrams Report on MSNBC.  During the Your Rebuttal section of the program, where viewers (all 12 or so) have their comments aired, Daniels read a response to the Aruba Boycott coverage from a 19 year old Boston College sophomore, Katie. 

As we all know, 18 year old Alabama student Natalee Holloway went MIA in Aruba on the last night of a “Graduation Break” fling on the island.  After a night of what has variously been described as anywhere from “moderate” to “irresponsible” drinking, Holloway departed Carlos’n Charlie’s bar in a car with three Aruban youths she barely knew.  That was the last time Natalee was seen. 

Her disappearance strongly points towards foul play and...some guilty-as-hell-looking suspects.  Due to the perception of an inept (real or imagined) Aruban criminal system, Alabama Gov. Bob Riley has called for a travel boycott to the island in hopes of lighting a fire under the Aruban government’s prosecution of the case. 

Our Boston College student, Katie, wrote to the Abrams Report in opposition to this boycott.  Here is what she said: 

I am infuriated by those that believe that the general population of Aruba must suffer from some girl’s carelessness in a foreign country.  In my opinion and from my own experiences, I believe that Aruba is much safer than even Boston where I live.  My friends and I watched out for each other and didn’t take advantage of the 18 year old drinking age to become so inebriated that we would allow ourselves or one of our friends to leave with a local whom we did not know.

Katie sounds like a very sensible person and there is no misstatement of fact in her missive.  But, it didn’t take long for MSNBC’s Lisa Daniels to play PC assassin and try to dissuade Katie from any sense of common sense. 

Here is Daniels’ full response to Katie’s comments: 

Just a quick response Katie.  I’m fine with you not supporting the boycott, but don’t blame the victim for her fate.  That is totally unfair.  You’re acting like she deserved what happened to her.

Before getting into this, let’s get a few things straight.  I am no friend of Aruba, nor am I an enemy.  It’s just another Caribbean tourist destination.  The Aruban government’s handling of the Holloway investigation seems to leave much to be desired.  It appears to be less than a "Mayberry, R.F.D." episode.  And, whatever happened or is happing to Ms. Holloway leaves me deeply sorry for her and her loved ones.  BUT.... 

Lisa Daniels immediately assigned the victim label to Ms. Holloway.  Nobody, except Natalee and those who might be involved, has any idea of her fate.  Therefore, what exactly is she a victim of?  Is she: a victim of a heinous crime; a victim of bad judgment; a victim of an inept Aruban government or a victim of just tripping into the ocean?  Nobody, other than Natalee and those who might be involved, has any idea if she is indeed a victim.  But, victimization is a necessary component of 21st century PC life. 

As for that totally unfair drivel, the jury is still out.  Prior to deciding if Katie was unfair in suggesting that the victim assumes any blame (culpability?) for her fate, we might wish to consider if Katie actually meant that Natalee deserved what happened to her.  Perhaps Katie was suggesting that Natalee, through a lack of good judgment, contributed to her fate.  

Fair or unfair, let’s make the assumption that very few people actually deserve what happens to them.   

Take the case of 19 year old Colorado coed, Samantha Spady.  In 2004, Ms. Spady consumed copious amounts of alcohol while “partying” around campus.  In fact, on September 4 & 5, 2004: 6 p.m. -- Spady consumed at least 2 beers and 2 shots of tequila; 8 p.m. -- drank beer for 1 to 2 hours from a "supersized" cup; 12 a.m. -- Spady consumed at least 4-5 beers; 2 a.m. -- Spady drank more beer; 3:30 a.m. --. Spady and 7-10 people shared 1 to 2 bottles of Vanilla Vodka.  At 6:22 p.m. -- Spady was found dead from self-inflicted alcohol poisoning. 

Did victim Spady deserve to die as a result of consuming 30 to 40 beers and vodka drinks in 11 hours?  The answer is a simple no.  But, did Spady contribute to, and share responsibility for, her own demise?  The answer is a simple yes.   

Did Spady’s parents and friends deserve her death?  Was it fair? No, No and No.  But, could they also share some responsibility in this tragedy?  Could her parents have helped to mold Spady into a more responsible drinker?  Could her friends have intervened early on in the night to help avert this tragedy?  Maybe yes and maybe...we will never know for sure. 

There are consequences to one’s actions and one’s actions are a direct result of one’s judgment, or lack thereof.  Being “judgmental” is not the dirty word that PC liberals have branded it.  Every second of every day, people make judgment calls.  Do I stop at the yellow light or do I crash it?   

The quality of one’s judgments becomes a measure of one’s responsibility.  Rather than shielding children from the unpleasantness of unpleasantness in life, parents, and all adults, are well-advised to educate children in navigating life’s inevitable minefields.   

Lisa Daniels’ little on-air PC diatribe was “warm and fuzzy” but totally irresponsible.  Life is not fair.  And while we may not deserve most of what we get, we will surely suffer the consequences of our actions, or reap their rewards.  Deserves’ got nothin’ to do with it, but consequences do.    And that is something that Lisa Daniels, and all adults, should be teaching the youth of this country before they become the next victim.   

But don’t hold your breath on this one.  Victim pity parties get higher ratings than the humdrum dignity of responsible behavior.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abramsreport; aruba; lisadaniels; msnbc; nataleeholloway; samanthaspady
It really is possible to be an academically well educated airhead and MSNBC’s Lisa Daniels is living proof.

Amen

1 posted on 11/16/2005 2:05:13 PM PST by Dr.Syn
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To: Dr.Syn

I'm not sure one comment is enough to convict Ms. Daniels of being an airhead.


2 posted on 11/16/2005 2:13:29 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Dr.Syn

Remember the story about the wealthy Arab sheik whose kid wanted a Mickey Mouse outfit for his birthday - so he bought him MSNBC.


3 posted on 11/16/2005 2:19:58 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Remember the story about the wealthy Arab sheik whose kid wanted a Mickey Mouse outfit for his birthday - so he bought him MSNBC.

LMAO

4 posted on 11/16/2005 2:22:30 PM PST by Dr.Syn
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To: Dr.Syn
Deserves’ got nothin’ to do with it

Great Clint Eastwood quote from Unforgiven.

Good, well-reasoned take down of a pompous media elitist.

5 posted on 11/16/2005 2:43:23 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Dr.Syn

The "airhead" in this story is "Katie", the letter-writer.
She says no one should boycott Aruba just because Natalie Holloway was "careless" in a foreign country. I don't think the proposed boycott is based on Ms. Holloway missing her flight of misplacing her luggage. Instead, it seems she almost undoubtedly was murdered, and most probably by a spoiled rich kid whose daddy happens to be an apprentice judge in Aruba. The prosecutor's office is quoted as saying--on the QT-- "How can I do this to my best friend's son?" In any event, it is clear that the investigation is bungled through outright ineptitude or intentional malfeasance.

Perhaps if some of those beach front hotels reported a sharp dip in yankee dollars flowing in, word would come down to put someone competent and honest in charge of the case.


6 posted on 11/16/2005 2:45:30 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: San Jacinto

I agree. It fits right in with there being consequences for your actions. If the Aruban people accept the completely incompetent and probably corrupt law enforcement and justice system displayed in this case, especially with all of the attention it has gotten, then they deserve the consequences. If that's a boycott so be it.


7 posted on 11/16/2005 3:32:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Love that proclaims itself loudly loves only itself.)
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To: Dr.Syn
I have a few problems with this article.

"Did victim Spady deserve to die as a result of consuming 30 to 40 beers and vodka drinks in 11 hours? The answer is a simple no."

Let's define deserve, first. My reading is that if you "deserve" something, it means that you are worthy or of merit, that you've earned something as a result of effort or action. If you don't "deserve" it, then, you haven't earned it as a result of effort or action, you've acquired that something randomly or unfairly.

And by her actions, by golly, yes, she DESERVED to die. If you point a gun at your head and pull the trigger, you DESERVE to get a bullet in your head.

"But, did Spady contribute to, and share responsibility for, her own demise? The answer is a simple yes."

Contributed to her demise? Shared responsibility for her demise? No, she WAS responsible, and wholly so. She did not have a single soul force feeding her. That people cheerled her on is irrelevant to the fact that SHE KILLED HERSELF. If you threaten to jump off a bridge and block traffic, that I yell at you to jump and get it over with so I can get to work, does not make me culpable if you DO jump. You're the damn fool who did it.

"Did Spady’s parents and friends deserve her death? Was it fair? No, No and No."

This "no, no, and no" is a tad more ambiguous, but here's a question: were they making her do it? Did they help her to do it? Did they have any effect on the crappy reasoning skills that led her to think she could shoot down 30 to 40 beers and vodka drinks in 11 hours and SURVIVE? If the answer to THESE questions is YES, YES, and YES, then hell, yeah, they DESERVED it. They earned it as a result of their inability to inculcate in her common sense and failure to discourage her stupidity. These kids who were evidently so desperate for friendship they threw away their own lives to be accepted, their parents are encouraged to blame others for the passing of their kids, when the legal culpability, should lie squarely on the shoulders of their children, and the moral culpability should lie squarely on those parents who raised a child so bereft of self-esteem and common sense that they had to play the drunken fool to keep their ego from being shattered entirely.

After all, who deserves the finger pointed more? The kids who egged them on? Do the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders deserve to cover losses when the Cowboys fail to meet the spread? Do Laker Girls get fired willy-nilly when Kobe goes into a slump? I don't think so.

Fairness is something you can expect...from your mommy. Justice is what the law is supposed to give you, not what you deserve or what's fair. If the law really gave people what they deserved or what was fair, then everyone could expect to be in jail a long time for all those times we broke it speeding or committing other minor infractions and nobody caught us, or all those times we conspired in our heads to kill that SOB who ticked us off, or rob that bank when we're broke, for the sheer joy of imagining it. As the old toast goes, "May we all get what we want, as long as we DON'T get what we DESERVE."

[/end rant]

8 posted on 11/16/2005 4:44:37 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Let O'Connor Go Home! Hasn't She Suffered Enough? Hasn't The CONSTITUTION Suffered Enough?)
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