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Mark Williams Says GOP Must Dump Arnold (Threat to CAGOP)
Sacramento Union Website ^ | 11/9/05 | Mark Williams

Posted on 11/16/2005 9:36:07 PM PST by SierraWasp

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To: SierraWasp

Mark has a weakness for WAY TOO MUCH caffeine.


61 posted on 11/17/2005 12:23:22 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
Maybe so, but I am seeing way too many Republicans and sortof Conservatives who actually need a little injection of caffine instead of lying back and letting a sortof Republican Governor do everything, right, wrong, or indifferently!!!

That's my view and I'm stickin to it!!!

62 posted on 11/17/2005 12:28:32 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: GVgirl; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; FOG724; calcowgirl; heleny; FairOpinion; ...
By the way... And just to be fair... The State of California is headed toward ending the fiscal year with a surplus!!! The crisis is over and all our terrible problems are solved and we shall dwell in the house of Schwartzenegger forever and ever in musclebound bliss!!!

Actually, we won't have a government surplus... What we'll have is SURPLUS GOVERNMENT!!!

63 posted on 11/17/2005 2:42:04 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
"It is time to declare war on Republican moderates!" I would hope that war would at least start right here on FR!!!

There will always be 100 shades of conservatism. From far right to left of center. Declaring war is counterproductive. Challenging the mantra of the center and center left is far more effective. Plus, there is always a chance, that after being pounded with reality, day after day, they will realize that their blind, partisan loyalty is not serving their personal interests.

I am impressed by the conduct of the calcowgirl account (CCGA). Whether the FairOpinion account, or the Tamsey account, or the GrandpaDave account, the approach is always the same. The CCGA patiently waits until these partisans have had their say. Then the CCGA presents sourced facts and quotes, which differ greatly from the mantra just presented and asks for a reasoned response. After a sufficient time without a reply, the CCGA then politely asks the partisans to put up or shut up. They always shut up.

Republican Party loyalists, especially those from the center on a conservative forum, are at times a real pain in the everyone's side, but always remember:

Treat all with respect but be kind to Republicans for they have the greatest potential to become conservatives.

64 posted on 11/17/2005 2:54:04 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: SierraWasp

If we can force a primary on the RP side, I'm all for it. If we can't it will be a wasted effort.


65 posted on 11/17/2005 2:54:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Cinnamon Girl
What hero from the GOP could be elected in CA right now?

With an attitude like that, no one, but then, I'm somewhat taken aback that you were into self-fulfilling prophesies. Your analyses of the prior few elections are more cursory than I would have thought worthy of your intelligence.

Oh well.

66 posted on 11/17/2005 3:00:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Simon said over and over in his campaign that Davis had run us $20 billion in debt. No one listened.

Well when Wall Street is looking to predate the State, we wouldn't want to break up the party.

Actually, people did listen, which is why Simon crushed Dick Riordan in the primary. The GOP fixed that by sabotaging his campaign in the general election. With all that, he lost by less than 325,000 votes with 1.6 million Republicans sitting out the election.

67 posted on 11/17/2005 3:05:04 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Amerigomag
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the Earth." (Jesus Christ)

Not to be too irreverent, however, he wasn't talking about CA politics, was he? Because Arnold just caused GANG-GREEN to inherit 1/5th of CA with the Sierra-Nevada CONservancy!!!

68 posted on 11/17/2005 3:06:43 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
HE wasn't taking about politics:

"Give to Caesar, what is Caesar's" was not a reference to the Sierra Nevadas but it's ironic that the motivating philosophy behind the recent decision was similar in tone: "Give to Green what is sacred".

69 posted on 11/17/2005 3:38:02 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: hedgetrimmer

Well at least Arnold has vetoed some legislation. If a Democrat was in office we would have had a tax increase again, a repeal of prop 13, and drivers licenses for illegals.


70 posted on 11/17/2005 3:44:01 PM PST by fisherman90814
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To: SierraWasp
So what does The Arnold do when he gets back from China but announce another 50 billion dollar bond issue for "infrastructure". At what rates I shutter to contemplate.

Of course all of these contracts will be at "Prevailing Wage"!

Just a little bone for his union buddies...
71 posted on 11/17/2005 3:52:44 PM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: John Lenin
The RATS will takeover and the state will crash, than a real Republican can win.

That's why I was against the recall of Davis. All the recall did was give the Marxist/Dem legislature cover. The recall was a huge mistake, in my opinion. To people who ask would it have been better to keep Davis, I say yes, because then the Dems could not run and hide from the state's problems, which they caused.

If the theory that things will only get better after they get worse has any validity, then I say let the Dems take over and stew in their own juices for awhile.

72 posted on 11/17/2005 4:03:04 PM PST by Wolfstar (The stakes in the global war on terror are too high for politicians to throw out false charges.)
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To: SierraWasp

Stupid article by a clearly stupid man. If the article were any more generalized and opinioned, and beefless, it would explode. That's my call.


73 posted on 11/17/2005 4:26:45 PM PST by Torie
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To: Wolfstar

Will you be moving out of state with Nissan?


74 posted on 11/17/2005 4:35:49 PM PST by b9
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To: fisherman90814
If a Democrat was in office we would have had a tax increase again, a repeal of prop 13, and drivers licenses for illegals.

Sorry, you don't have your facts straight.

A tax increase would require Republican complicity in the State legislature. A repeal of Prop 13 would require a State Constitutional Amendment, with voter approval. Driver licenses for illegals were about to be repealed anyway by referendum when Arnold signed nearly unanimous legislation repealing SB-60.

75 posted on 11/17/2005 4:47:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: doodlelady
Will you be moving out of state with Nissan?

I'm a contractor here, not a full-time employee. I don't get all the moving assistance and benefits. So I couldn't afford to follow the company there even if I was assured of a job. Thanks for asking.

76 posted on 11/17/2005 4:59:07 PM PST by Wolfstar (The stakes in the global war on terror are too high for politicians to throw out false charges.)
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To: Amerigomag
"Give to Green what is sacred"

No way! Not a chance!! Unless yer a bleepin Born Again Pagan!!!

77 posted on 11/17/2005 5:00:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Torie
"That's my call."

That's quite right and rightfully so, since it was yer nickel! You da man!!!

78 posted on 11/17/2005 5:05:00 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: tubebender
Well... Now that he's been gelded and will be reaching out to our miserable mutual adversaries to once again be lookin for love in all the wrong places...

You need to write him an open letter and ask him why he won't dance with the ones that brung him to the ball! Why won't he dance with the CA Farm Bureau that endorsed him early on in the Recall and repeal that stupid Sierra Nevada CONservancy legislation. Then ask him why he won't dance with all the conservatives from Nevada, Placer and El Dorado counties that ginned up way more than our share to make a Recall election possible in which a vast majority voted for him and STILL supported his Special Election and his ballot propositions as hopeful, loyal conservative counties expecting him to do what he said he would.

And finally, ask him who he thinks he's dancin with when he appoints all those enemies of capitalism Demnocrats to judgeships and other high paying bloated bureaucrat posts in the bloated state government!

Then tell him that hell hath no fury like that of a voter in CA scorned by a thoughtless politician who takes us for granted while making things harder for us who wanted Democrats OUT of our state government... Not just Gray Davis!!! And we certainly never expected him to out Democrat Davis in the process, but he has!!!

79 posted on 11/17/2005 5:30:08 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Why the cracks, Carry Okie? And why are you evaluating my intelligence?


80 posted on 11/17/2005 5:39:38 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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