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To: Cinnamon Girl

Any comments I have made about the "the guy in office" are well deserved.

The GOP really messed up because they had a candidate who could have succeeded if they only backed him. Instead they chose to support a RINO. So asking me about what other hero from the GOP should be run makes no sense. Plenty of people could run who have conservative credentials, but they will not get the financial and other support form the CA GOP because the CA GOP has been taken over by the RINOS. In fact, most of the central committees in this state have as well. Look at the district of Rep. Doolittle. There is a battle to stop the RINOs from taking over that district. They are using the same tactics that were used to take over other central committees in the state. The state GOP refuses to protect itself from those that would take it over and subvert its platform.


43 posted on 11/17/2005 9:59:48 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

That is true that the CA GOP stinks and sells good candidates down the river. But Arnold won no thanks to their help, and my question to you remains, who could win? Name names, don't get give me the old 'all kinds of conservatives could win' nonsense. McClintock couldn't have won even with the lame state party backing because he isn't well liked, and this continues to be the case. And Arnold's prop elections were not a RINO move, in my opinion, but rather an attempt to bipass the dumb-sses in Sacratomato, in hopes that the voters would use their brains as they did to recall Gray Davis. Arnold was outspent and out t.v. advertised, again, no thanks to the CAGOP.


45 posted on 11/17/2005 10:44:59 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Jim Robinson; tubebender; forester; marsh2; ElkGroveDan; Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; ...
"Look at the district of Rep. Doolittle. There is a battle to stop the RINOs from taking over that district. They are using the same tactics that were used to take over other central committees in the state. The state GOP refuses to protect itself from those that would take it over and subvert its platform."

You couldn't be any more absolutely correct!!!

The really upsetting thing is, hedgetrimmer, is that THEY'RE HERE!!! (right here on FR!!!)

They're the ones pounding CA conservatives and especially Freepers with the self-fulfilling prophecy that conservatism cannot win in CA and must subject it'self at the very most, to incrementalism of an interminable nature to even subsist at a low level in CA's "New & Improved" GOP!!!

They are taking particular delight in the idea that we don't seem to have a champion at the moment and are determined to put down the only potential possiblity as a 13%er! (just in case McClintock should ever stick his head up again)

They do not dare allow us to criticize the big celebrity blowhard while we discuss the falicies being foisted upon Cauleeforneeyuns as somehow conservative friendly governmental policies! The conservative conversation must be "dissed" as divisive and harmful in their way of thinking! You know, it's "Be reasonable! See it my way!" (otherwise you should be cast into outer darkness)

Now that the special election is over, as well as the Recall election, the feeling of "The New Majority" is that those scary "righteous conservatives" are to be permanently marginalized and never allowed to regain Party positions that were once worked for and earned, but from which they have now been squeezed, or at best are ignored should they still hold said positions.

Third Party efforts are an exercise in futility! Only restoration of righteous conservative representation and majority restoration of a respectable Party Platform that is enforced through a democratic process will work to regain conservative influences throughout CA Republicanism as it thrived in the first half of the last decade and in the Reagan years before that.

Rodger Hedgecock, filling in for Rush Limbaugh today just said: "It is time to declare war on Republican moderates!" I would hope that war would at least start right here on FR!!!

50 posted on 11/17/2005 11:18:33 AM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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