Posted on 11/17/2005 10:40:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
LITITZ, Pa. — Fifty-four guns were seized from the home of an 18-year-old in custody for shooting his girlfriend's parents dead and then taking her on the lam, court papers show.
The weapons and ammunition removed from David Ludwig's home were confiscated in a search conducted Sunday, according to the documents. At the time, Ludwig and his 14-year-old girlfriend Kara Beth Borden were still at large.
Ludwig has since been caught, charged with two counts of criminal homicide, kidnapping and reckless endangerment, and is in prison without bail. Kara is home in Pennsylvania with her family.
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At least we know that over 98% of guns in a murderer's home harmed no one.
My first thought was "why". I'm also irritated at the way they talk about the killer as if he were a child.
Evidence. This is after all, the home of someone who is wanted for murder and kidnapping charges. Because his is a minor, he doesn't legally own anything in the home, his parents do. But given there was a murder, and given the large stockpile of weapons, I would say that those weapons were material evidence in the case. Certainly as much as any computers, papers, etc. that they might find in the home.
Sorry, he is 18 and not a minor. However, the guns are material evidence in a murder case.
18 is not a minor--?
Ludwig is 18. He's no minor.
To prove what charge?
I can't find much in the news about his parents. While legally resonsible, 18 is mighty young, and he was apparently living at home under his parent's authority. No mention of his sibs or parents, that I have seen.
Evidence of what? There are absolutely no accounts of him returning to his home to stash the gun. I would aslos bet that the majority of the guns were not even handguns.
Only one gun killed the girls parents, and even it had help.
I can only see a reason for this if there is a possibility of him being released on bail. Since he is charged with a double murder and kidnapping, I don't see even a remote possibility of bail.
How are guns of a different caliber or description (e.g. handgun vs. rifle vs. shotgun) "material evidence" in the case?
Not all of them, only the ones matching the caliber of the murder weapon or weapons.
Even if he is released on bail, you cannot deny the right of his parents to keep and bear arms.
Indeed makes him sound like a little boy...
...yeah, a little boy who shot pointblank the girls parents in the head.
I really really hate hearing her say that!
Oh you mean you haven't heard the stirrings of the "homeschooling Christian families" snippets on this story in the news? They're positively salivating for more info - and when they have it - you'll hear LOTS about the parents.
My daughter had an intruder last Sunday and while the guy was kicking in the door the boyfriend got her revolver and as the guy was making threatening move toeards them the bf fires a shot at him and he scooted.
Deputies arrived and took the report and also took her revolver. They did catch the guy but left her with no way to defend herself in case he came back.
I was pi$$ed and called SO for explanation of why they removed the gun, couldn't get a good answer except that a shot was fored.
Anyway I said if they can justify it by law OK but if not I want them to release it.
Next day they let her have it back and tried to say they just took it for safekeeping.
In short, they just took it because they could. The gun wasn't involved in the breakin and since the guy wasn't hit, scared hell out of him, they had no legal grounds to confiscate it. FWIW.
Look. Be honest. Any house with 50+ guns in it might be a red flag. I'm a conservative but one thing I hate about the freerepublic is the inability to face the truth sometimes. Any house with 50 some odd guns in it is a red flag. Period.
You can if they are allowing him access to them.
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