How To Lose A War: The Sequel (Ollie North)

GOP USA ^ | 11-18-05 | Oliver North

[Humidston]

I totally understand what you're saying because I'm doing exactly the same thing lately. I do read and post, but I'm trying to ignore most of the drip drip drip of the Vietnam sounding cacophony from the left.

My B/P stays under control that way.

But I just cannot understand what they're doing to us - again. They must hate our country.

[Tribune7]

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[smoothsailing]

I started in the Fall of'69.Your memories are similar to mine.It didn't have to be that way.

The nation,although scarred,survived.

This time is different.

[Calpernia]

Since October of 2001, our FOX News "War Stories" unit has been documenting the remarkable young Americans fighting the Global War on Terror. We have covered thousands of them on the decks of ships in the Persian Gulf, on combat patrols in the shadow of the Hindu Kush, in gunfights along the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates and gone to hospitals in Iraq, Germany and the U.S. with the wounded. Throughout, there has been a common bond among these "warriors of Sept. 11" -- a steadfast resolve that they could win the war. Now, for the first time since I accompanied the initial U.S. combat units heading into Kandahar, Afghanistan, I'm hearing something different -- a loss of confidence in the final outcome.

[Calpernia]

Thanks for the ping!

BTTT

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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JOHN KERRY came back from Vietnam to call us American Soldiers fighting for Freedom there...

...rapists & terrorists...

...instead of the ones we were fighting.

MEL GIBSON came back from filming our real Vietnam War story titled -WE WERE SOLDIERS-...

inspired to finally make his long planned ultimate story of LOVE & Sacrifice:

MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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[antiunion person]

What can the individual American do by himself?? When I voted for the republicans, I listened to what they had to say, 'promise'. They said what I wanted to hear. Now they are in office and what do they do, they ignore the wish of the people that voted them in. I always thought the politicians were there to represent me and vote for what the majority wanted, not what the special interests want or what's best for the party.
Can someone tell me, advise me, what I can do?? As a simpleton fly over person, what can be done?? What will happen to the United States if the democrats (communists) win the next election??

[Theophilus]

It is more important than Medicare, the next Supreme Court justice, foreign trade deals or tax reform. If we lose the war -- and we could -- none of these things will matter.

Whoa! If we don't stop the abortion slaughter, democracy in Iraq won't matter.

[sissyjane]

This whole debacle that we are witnessing makes me sick, and this article made me cry.

I thought that the Republicans would stand with our President. I guess not. It really makes me think, and I hope no one from the RNC asks me for money any time soon.

[Antoninus]

"We've fought well." "We're helping to create a democracy." "Don't they want us to win?"

I think I'm passed the point where I think the Democrats have any sense of wanting to do what's good for this country. No, they don't want us to win.

They have wanted us to lose from day one, have tried to bring about our defeat from day one, and are hoping to reap as much political gain from such a defeat as possible.

They are traitors and I am sick to death of every last one of them.

[Humidston]

I find myself wondering how it would be today if Flight 93 had reached its intended destination.

[Soul Seeker]

Damn them.

Damn all spineless Republicans and treacherous RINO's & Dems.

I issue this warning. They allow the Iraqi's to meet the fate of the Vietnamese...if they allow those troops to meet the same fate of my father...

I will make sure they are sent packing from Washington just as surely as they've set back Freedom in an entire region of the world and endangered the safety of this country.

GROW UP COWARDS! Fulfill your oath, tear up the NYT's, and start doing what's right for a change before consultation of a poll.

RENOUNCE that damn resolution, withdraw it, vote to stay the coarse, support the war, support the troops no matter cost and time until Victory. Sign your names to a resolution that condemns the terrorists to Hell before you condemn the Iraqi's, Americans and your own damn empty shells there. Renounce the lies told about this administration, Be something other than an opportunistic political fair weather shell of useful service to bin ladin and Zarquawi.

[penelopesire]

Ollie North is a great man. This was one of the most striking of his comments:

"...No matter where we stand in the war on terror -- if the Senate has its way, we're "pulling out" in 2006. Abu Musab al Zarqawi's "al Qaeda in Iraq" terrorist organization immediately claimed victory and exhorted his followers to "hold on."

LOOK WHAT THE SENATE IS DOING TO THIS COUNTRY!! They are a bunch of political cowards! Disgust does not even begin to measure my feeling tonight...I am in tears at this point. I am old enough to remember the end of Vietnam, our family lost a member (MIA), who was only returned to us in 1999 and buried at Arlington National Cemetary with full military honors..six white horses pulling the cassion, bagpipes playing Amazing Grace and a fly over of F-18's set in the missing man formation. He was finally laid to rest, 33 years and 24 days, since he went missing over the skies of Vietnam in 1966.
The War the politicians lost in Washington, not our brave men in Vietnam.


These politicians speak a good game, but in the end, it is only their own backsides they contemplate deep into the night. Not our soldiers,not our country, not even their own constituency. They contemplate POLLS..they contemplate losing their power..they contemplate their own selfish interests. This is a sad day in America!

Tonight, while looking for a unit to adopt during the holidays at AnySoldier.com, I ran across this message from Sgt. Brian Horn, which he ended by saying:

"The Any Soldier Campaign has seen tears from some, given hope to most, and has been inspirational to us all. Your relentless support has provided the simple reminder that any one of us would proudly die for a grateful nation in our ongoing fight against terrorism."

http://www.anysoldier.com/

Our soldiers have not given up the fight, but sadly, our Congress has.

[justa-hairyape]

If we pull out before the Iraqi military is strong enough to defend itself from Iran, the Iranian Mullahs will invade and topple Iraq. If this occurs while a dimwit is President, it will go uncontested. Then the Iranian Mullahs will invade and topple Jordon. This will put them on Israel's border. In a nut shell, we will be forcing Israel to nuke the Iranian mullah hordes before Iran destroys Israel. The only way Saddam could stop the mullah hordes was with chemical WMD. Either Israel nukes or Israel faces invasion from the Iranian Mullahs. So the deaths of millions of Iranians and/or Israeli's will be on the hands of the Roman Senator Reid and ilk. But hey, they will have gotten their prize. A Democratic President in exchange for millions of Middle Eastern lives. 'Deja Vu all over again'. They got their Democratic President (Carter) in exchange for hundreds of thousands of Asian lives.

[Antoninus]

I thought that the Republicans would stand with our President. I guess not. It really makes me think, and I hope no one from the RNC asks me for money any time soon.

What I don't get is that the idiots in the GOP make the same mistake every time things get tough--abandon your base and cater to every group that will NEVER vote for you in a million years.

The GOP won't become a minority party in 2006 because they already are one. There are too many Democrats in the party who were elected under false pretenses. Even with a majority, they simply can not govern except in a liberal way.

[penelopesire]

well said soulseeker!

[goodnesswins]

It makes me sick to think what the Clinton's likely think about that....(IF flight 93 had made it...to its "destination.")

[Marine_Uncle]

I just got done reading parts of George76 post on Hanoi Traitor John Kerry.
This stuff can start getting to one after a while. There is so much dishonor, and deceit. The horrors we are seeing before our very eyes as how these senators and house reps are behaving is beyond the pale of belief.
I did not have to fight in the rice fields of NAM. I stayed home and helped produce ECM pods for our Airforce pilots,Navy and Marine aviators to protect them from SAMs. And later other military programs. It is like dejevue though.
History is repeating itself to a tee.
But now I take it so much more personally. I feel like a lot of us guys here probably do, that we would sign up and go over there and join these magnificant men and women who serve with such honor and committement.
To read the constant good reports about how many of those Iraqi units shall advance in their classification of worthyness, and how they are now effectively taking the fight to their enemy along side our Army and Marines on the ground. HOw in such a short amount of time they shall have the December full democratic election. Everything the POTUS had claimed must be done, is happening before our very eyes. And now these malfactants in their slubbering selfish, dishonorable way are bring everything our guys and gals have died for and got wounded over, to a halt.
Smoothsailing. It is getting tough to want to log in every day and read this stuff. But I guess I shall not stop. People such as visit this site must bear the pains, and assemble hard core balanced information for any who will listen. It is worse to just drop out and say the hell with it all.

[goodnesswins]

PLEASE put that in an editorial letter to the NEW YORK TIMES, BOSTON GLOBE, WASHINGTON POST and WA TIMES....LA TIMES, etc.....Please!

[Eagles6]

Oh Gosh!

I had to restrain myself from unloading on a bunch of a$$holes at work today.

It was about bj clinton. It was just about sex!

What I wanted to say:

My father lost his eye in the Phillipines and his father was gassed in france. My great uncle died at Normandy. My Uncle Rip started the first MASH hospitals and flew the Hump. I wore his brother-in-law's AAF jacket while camping in Boy Scouts. Men have fought in this family since the Revolution.

They fought for this country. The beacon of FREEDOM AND LIBERTY in the world. They fought so these a$$holes could have the freedom of speech.

What I said: Good Night. I'll see you tomorrow.

We"ll see what tomorrow brings.