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To: spinestein; TheCrusader
[Devout Christians cannot be Darwinists, and vice versa.]

Simon Conway Morris is both. See for example about 1/4 the way down

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In an essay entitled, “Agreeing Only to Disagree on God’s Place in Science,” George Johnson reports from a Templeton Foundation seminar on science and religion in Cambridge. There, Dawkins, a featured speaker, had a heated exchange with Simon Conway Morris, a Christian paleontologist.

Seems the two scientists started off pleasantly enough. They agreed, Johnson writes, that the “richness of the biosphere, humanity included, could be explained through natural selection.” They also agreed that “evolution is not a crapshoot”—that if the earth’s history could be redone the result might differ slightly, but “certain physical constraints would favor the eventual appearance of warm-blooded creatures something like us, with eyes, ears, noses and brains.”

But that’s where they “forked in orthogonal directions.” For Conway Morris, nature’s ability to produce moral creatures, humans, indicates that God must have orchestrated evolution. Dawkins doesn’t buy it, and he asked Conway Morris why, if they could agree on everything else, he has to add God to the picture. From a scientific perspective, Dawkins said, Conway Morris’s God was “gratuitous.”

Ouch. Dawkins’ remark apparently left Conway Morris “momentarily flummoxed,” as he “muttered to himself.” Dawkins, Johnson writes, “had scored a crucial point.”

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Conway Morris is one of the world's experts on the Burgess Shale.

Another essay on the same topic

166 posted on 11/18/2005 11:47:37 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
"For Conway Morris, nature’s ability to produce moral creatures, humans, indicates that God must have orchestrated evolution."

Mr. Morris is presumptious in two areas, I believe. One, his personal notion that he is a Christian who can believe in evolution; two, that evolution is factual, hence God created it.

Mr. Morris seems to believe that God did not create us, but rather that He created an apparatus called evolution that would only later create us as we are today. It is beliefs like this that dilute the Christian faith. Since truth cannot be diluted and still remain truth, these people are no more Christians than a drop of water placed into the ocean remains a drop of water. Darwinism is a faith-stealer which amounts to the parable of the birds "that devoured the seeds" of (Christian) faith before they had a chance to take root and grow. (Mathew 13:4).

(If Morris' God is the God of Christianity), then he should be reminded that Christians believe in the holy Scriptures, aka "the Bible". To reconcile his personal views on darwinsim/evolution, he has to either re-write the Bible or reinterpret it to suit his personal/prideful needs. The true Chrisitan faith still, and always will, teach that Adam was made immediately, from the slime of the earth; and that Adam was the first man, was one man, and that all men are his descendents.

188 posted on 11/18/2005 1:23:08 PM PST by TheCrusader (Evolutionist know everything about the missing link, except the fact that it's missing~GK Chesterton)
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