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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: BlueStateDepression
If they vote present, then they show the world that even when given the opportunity to vote they REFUSE to do so.

It will shut Jack Murtha up and blunt any effect his ridiculous resolution would have had.

401 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:03 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Ah, there it is! Jane Harman just used the "attacking our patriotism" line.


402 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:08 PM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Rangel was on Hannity earlier and was fit to be tied that the left is getting called out on this. He also managed to slip in his B.S. idea that only "poor peoples kids" are being sent to Iraq.

I'm far from poor and my son is an adult. He volunteered to serve and requested an assignment with a unit headed to Iraq. People like Rangle aren't worth the dirt on the bottom of my sons boots.


403 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:12 PM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the men of 3/1, 1st Marines in Al Anbar)
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To: Txsleuth

Yep, great way to start the weekend. Can't you just hear Timmy squealing like a pig over this? Right now, the Republicans are shaming the Democrats.


404 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:34 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: nape1; Old Sarge; StarCMC; Lady Jag; LUV W
NO IT IS NOT BRILLIANT! How would you like to be a soldier in Iraq right now? How would you like to be a family member of a soldier right now? These a** clowns should stop screwing around with people who face death fighting in Iraq! Finish it and then go home!


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I am a family member of a Soldier in Ramadi. He is a member of FR as well. I am sure the He and Kids of the Company AND I would LOVE to know who is back stabbing their efforts in Washington, and here on FR. They are going to come home when they finish it.

WHEN THE MISSION IS COMPLETE!
405 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:49 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: Morgan in Denver
All the Republicans did was to put the vote in the positive. Vote to support the troops or not.

I think you're right.

Best not to have this country voting, even if the outcome is overwhelmingly AGAINST, pulling OUT of Iraq. Best to have them voting positively. Just better PR. The spin would be something like, "already the American congress is taking votes to pull out of Iraq."

Americans know what it's all about. It's what matters.

Popcorn and beer anyone?

406 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:50 PM PST by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: blogblogginaway

I may be dense....does this mean that Murtha is the only one that will be debating during the "official" debate time?

Well...that makes the rest even more cowardly than I thought.


407 posted on 11/18/2005 1:46:53 PM PST by Txsleuth (9/11-NEVER FORGET, NEVER AGAIN!--Americans do NOT SURRENDER!)
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Here is some stuff from and about Murtha from more than a year ago.
[Congressional Record: March 17, 2004 (House)]
[Page H1142-H1202]

Mr. MURTHA. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. We did not go to war in World War II because of Dachau. We went to war because they attacked us, because our national security was in danger. And we went to war in Iraq because there

[[Page H1176]]

were weapons of mass destruction, I thought. There were al Qaeda connections, I thought. We did not go to war because these people were killed.

George Bush one, the first George Bush, knew there were mass graves. And he did not go into Iraq and he said, I do not want to rebuild Iraq; I do not want to occupy Iraq. And one Under Secretary of Defense said to our subcommittee it will not cost us a cent. It has cost us $150 billion to fight in Iraq and to rebuild Iraq.

So we are trying to revisit history. I mean, we cannot change it. We went to war because we thought we were threatened. These things were terrible things. We are glad to get rid of Saddam Hussein. That is not the point. We cannot revisit and change history. So I feel very strongly.


[[Page H1198]]

Mr. STUPAK. ... Why did this Administration mislead the American people 237 times in their statements about the so-called immediate threat from Iraq? As Mr. Murtha of Pennsylvania stated, ``never have so few, misled so many.''


H.RES.557 passes on a 327 AYE, 93 NAY, 7 "present", 7 not voting
Murtha is one of the NAY votes.

Resolved, That the House of Representatives--

(1) affirms that the United States and the world have been made safer with the removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime from power in Iraq;

(2) commends the Iraqi people for their courage in the face of unspeakable oppression and brutality inflicted on them by Saddam Hussein's regime;

(3) commends the Iraqi people on the adoption of Iraq's interim constitution; and

(4) commends the members of the United States Armed Forces and Coalition forces for liberating Iraq and expresses its gratitude for their valiant service.


408 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:02 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: sinkspur

Jack Kingston just dropped the MICHAEL MOOR CINDY SHEEHAN BOMBS!!! hahahah I love it!

This action is going to blunt a WHOLE LOT of the rhetoric out of the Dems mouths in congress AND the television.


409 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:11 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: StAnDeliver

My goodness, gracious the GOPers are starting to fire back.

Come on you treasonous, cowardly, seditious DemonRATS vote and support your head-chopping, suicide bomb-packing terrorists buddies against our honorable troops.

The GOP is finally fighting fire with fire. I am becoming more and more proud of my party every waking day. Yeah, this is the party I have been voting for and fighting for.


410 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:17 PM PST by daviscupper
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To: binkdeville

Kerry has a plan?

[Take a drink.]


411 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:18 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: PogySailor

Kingston (R-Georgia) -- Dems have let their party be taken over by Micheal Moore & Cindy Sheehan, they side with our enemies.


412 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:27 PM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: jellybean
Hey jb!!

Let the American people see who's ready to surrender to the terrorists.

Indeed.

413 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:29 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

jack kingston - Giving the Dems all they can take. Telling them how irresponsible the Democrat amendment is.
Quote Gen Webster "Setting a date would mean that the 221 soldiers I lost this year would be lost in vain"


414 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:32 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: Hoboto

I'm pulling up a chair, turning the TV antenna to get the best picture...


415 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:32 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Txsleuth

My prediction is that at the end of the asia tour, W will pop in for Thanksgiving dinner with the troops - wish it was at the syrian border!!


416 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:45 PM PST by txhurl
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To: All

Someone on Cspan just said the demo party has been taken over by Michael Moore & Cindy Sheehan. Missed his name! Sorry.


417 posted on 11/18/2005 1:47:45 PM PST by blondee123
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To: blogblogginaway

WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans, sensing an opportunity for political advantage, maneuvered for a quick vote and swift rejection Friday of a Democratic lawmaker's call for an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq.


- Notice how they NEVER report "House Democrats, sensing an opportunity for political advantage, called for the pullout of Iraq.".....?

Eternal Shame on the LMSM!


418 posted on 11/18/2005 1:48:06 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the treasonous Democrats!)
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To: Redbob

419 posted on 11/18/2005 1:48:27 PM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: TomGuy

"Hannity is thinking the Dems will maneuver to avoid the vote, so they won't 'go on record' as supporting the immediate pull out."

That's just as good...They had a chance to do something about it and didn't!


420 posted on 11/18/2005 1:48:33 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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