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To: Sols

I just watched a rerun of Murtha's speech on CSPAN. He's convinced we need to leave and the earlier the better. Why would he want to wait? It would take a few months before the last American would board a helicopter from the roof of the American embassy. It will take a little while to construct some towers so the MSM will have a place to film from while thousands of Iraqi's are left to be hunted down and killed.

Murtha said we should "redeploy." He suggested to Kuwait. He went on to say something like if it gets too bad the Marines can just run up the road and straighten it out.

He sounded pretty tired and hysterical to me. I'll just say that he feels genuine pain for the wounded and talked a lot about battle fatigue. He's been a point man on veterans issues for a long time. But, he seems and sounded like a PTSD victim who has just had enough. I saw a hint of 'losing it' about him.

He referred to his visits to Anbar province and the casualty rate increasing. The casualty rate is increasing because we are carrying the fight to the enemy and killing them where we find them. We are not merely patrolling the roads like ducks in a shooting gallery and providing targets to the terrorists.

During the last year of the Civil war the Union army under U.S. Grant suffered nearly daily battles with horrific casualties once the Army of the Potomac and headed south in pursuit of the Confederate army. Battles included the meat grinders of the Wilderness, Spottsylvania, Cold Harbor, and Petersburg before finishing up at Appomattox.

There were a lot of Copperheads who couldn't face it, called Grant a butcher, and wanted to negotiate a peace even while Grant was standing on the throat of the Confederacy.

It appears the Democrats are terrified that we might win. Why? We are in no military jeopardy, the casualty rate is barely above the normal accident rate, and we spank the enemy in every encounter.

I believe the Iraqi army can be trained to defend their country. It takes time and I think the conditions are such that we should wait awhile longer and see what happens.


71 posted on 11/18/2005 4:36:00 PM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Belasarius

This has all been so transparent, so organized.

The demands that we get out RIGHT NOW, IMMEDIATELY etc.

Is it OK if we at least wait until after the parlimentary election next month before we cut and run? /s

Aside from abandoning the Iraqi people, proving to terrorists that we can be rolled, and guaranteeing that the war effort was for nothing, could we at least wait until the completion of the election timetable if nothing else?

Do these dim traitors even know there is an election scheduled and that both the Bush WH and our own common sense tell us that violence will increase during the run up?

Or are they afraid that this election, like the others before it, will be a huge success so are keeping those waters as muddied as possible?


73 posted on 11/18/2005 4:39:12 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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