[Knute]

What President Bush visited was a tamed down church. A church that might pay homage to baby Jesus, meek & mild, but NOT a dynamic church that is producing devoted disciples of the King of Kings, not a church where people are laying down their lives for their faith.
Our President was at a safe, government sanctioned religious service. He was not at a place where the Gospel is boldly preached, without compromise, where Barbarians dare tread...
Publicity stunt by the Chicoms.

[stormlead]

and therein lies the problem with this visit. W is saying and doing some of the right things, but I fear that under pressure from business, etc, he might let this one slide.

The President brought up human rights, but I'm afraid he's going to let them get away with it this time around. I'm all for selling China Boeings, but not at the expense of our values.

China is not a free country, and, until it is, we need to seriously re-evaluate where we'll let our greed take us.