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Not Your Father's Republican Party (Is the GOP still the conservative party?)
Claremont Institute ^ | November 14, 2005 | Adam Wolfson

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:20:45 PM PST by Frank T

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To: satchmodog9

I'll venture that there are more conservative GOP congresscritters now than at any time in recent history.


21 posted on 11/21/2005 8:00:37 PM PST by pissant
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To: PhiKapMom

Agreed. Now they just need to learn how to wield power more effectively and beat the tar out of the libs.


22 posted on 11/21/2005 8:01:36 PM PST by pissant
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To: Frank T

Hmmmmmmmm...my "father's GOP" wasn't all that Conservative...Thomas Dewey, Ike, etc. and there is a lot of other nutty stuff in this worthless article.


23 posted on 11/21/2005 8:04:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: xrp

Only in that alternate universe you love in.


24 posted on 11/21/2005 8:05:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: xrp

Only in that alternate universe you live in.


25 posted on 11/21/2005 8:05:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Frank T

This reminds me of the idiotic "not your father's oldmobile" campaign. As if the new was better than the old when the old was vastly superior new "product".

I too don't agree with all this article has to say.

I do think it misses one important point. Republicans are FINALLY starting to ever so slowly act like a majority party. Years ago they only the "me too party".

I think there is a concerted effort to try and split conservatives from the republican party.


26 posted on 11/21/2005 8:06:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: postaldave

Hell NO! And Libertarians aren't Conservative.


27 posted on 11/21/2005 8:06:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: NapkinUser
Prove that Condi is pro-abortion.

Good luck with that, since she's never talked about abortion at all. :-)

28 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Southack

bttt


29 posted on 11/21/2005 8:10:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Frank T
If you mean we don't bemoan like a bunch of pussies (cats)- then no, I'm not a cry baby GOP gloom and doomer; and I'd like to hit back harder than ever rather than hold back.
31 posted on 11/21/2005 8:30:35 PM PST by Porterville (beware the nature-nazis)
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To: nopardons

Go check the federal budget increases since FY 2002 and get back to me.


32 posted on 11/21/2005 8:34:50 PM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: xrp

YAWN...is that the nest you can come up with? LOL


33 posted on 11/21/2005 8:42:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: xrp

YAWN...is that the best you can come up with? LOL


34 posted on 11/21/2005 8:42:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
>>>>Prove that Condi is pro-abortion.
>>>>Good luck with that, since she's never talked about abortion at all. :-)

That's wrong. Condi Rice gave a long interview to the Washington Times. Everyone from Wes Pruden to Tony Blanley asked Rice questions. Bill Sammon asked Rice about her position on abortion. Here's a cut from that Q&A session.

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Mr.Sammon:Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?

Miss Rice: I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I'm a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I'm a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself at times mildly pro-choice.

Mr. Sammon: That was the phrase that kept coming up.

Miss Rice: Yeah, mildly pro-choice. That's what that means. I think that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that's where I would tend to be. I'm very comfortable with the president's view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to have a culture that says that, "Who wants to have an abortion? Who wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through something like that?" And so I believe the president has been in exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.

Mr. Sammon: The only reason I even brought it up was because there is a school of thought that says that no conservative Republican can be elected president if they are not firmly pro-life. I know you haven't ruled anything in or out but...

Miss Rice: I'm not trying to be elected.

Mr. Sammon: But it sounds like you do not wish to change the laws that now allow ...

Miss Rice: Well, I don't spend my entire life thinking about these issues. You know, I spend my time really thinking about the foreign policy issues. But you know that I'm a deeply religious person and so, from my point of view, these extremely difficult moral issues where we have — where we're facing issues with technology and the prolongation of life and the fact that very, very young babies are able to survive now — very small babies are able to survive — these are great moral issues.

What I do think is that we should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it.

35 posted on 11/21/2005 8:44:20 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
Well, that was a yawner.

Since Condi has less than NOTHING whatsoever to do with whether abortions are legal or not, what difference does it make? She isn't going to run for president, after all.

36 posted on 11/21/2005 8:49:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
>>>>Well, that was a yawner.

LOL Rice really didn't answer the question of whether she was pro-life or pro-choice. As you said, she won't be running for POTUS.

37 posted on 11/21/2005 8:57:51 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Frank T
"To simplify quite a bit, these intellectuals aimed at forging a new party that would be guided by the traditionalism of Edmund Burke and the libertarianism of F.A. Hayek."

Hayek rejected being labeled as both libertarian and conservative.

The artice gets some things right, not all, is an interesting read at least.

38 posted on 11/21/2005 8:59:56 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: Reagan Man

Exactly so. :-)


39 posted on 11/21/2005 9:01:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I guess you can't handle the truth.


40 posted on 11/21/2005 11:16:05 PM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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